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vegetaleb
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Posted: 2005-10-26 00:51
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what will be the price?
I love my k750 but will go to a larger screen but if the w900 is more than 600$: no thanks
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Arne Anka
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Posted: 2005-10-26 01:09
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According to Per Aksell (product manager or something like that) at SE the price of W900 will be around W800+125 USD i.e. slightly more than current W800 price meaning less than 600 USD.

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Posted: 2005-10-27 07:27
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On 2005-10-20 18:25:43, goldenface wrote:
@max. You say some funny things sometimes You can hardly say that a phone, which can do everything that the K750 can do, but with more internal memory, 3G and a large screen a step backward really. It might not suit some but its hardly a step back.



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If you noticed, I said it would be a backward step for me personally, I'm not trying to speak for anyone else. I don't need 3G, and the phone has no lense cover and no fm radio, which for the reasons I describe, makes the K750 a better prospect for my needs. If I used the W900, then it would be a backward step since I'd lose the radio (or gain a bulky handsfree) and I'd have no active lense, which I find the quickest way to start the camera (without having to unlock phone) and also offer some protection to the lense. Both these factors are important to me, so for me the W900 is a backwards step. I also hate the form factor (tried a S700 for a while, hated the twist to death).

I'm not dissing the phone. I actually think it's an excellent phone. I'm just making the observation that it's not for me...

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Posted: 2005-10-28 17:21
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Yet anader video clip made with W900 by Rog at Mobile Review forum.

http://www.se-community.com/~[....]/cam_samples/vids/MOV00007.3gp
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Posted: 2005-10-28 17:58
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is this use to open and close a lens cover??? cos in my opinion the w900 do seems like have a lens cover... cos the depth of the cam looks deep enough for a cover???

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Posted: 2005-10-28 18:02
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this is the pic i mentioned above about the depth of the cam... seems like have space for a lens cover...

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Posted: 2005-10-28 18:07
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maybe, but I can't see a slider or switch to open it.....

It would be good if it did but from looking closer at those pics I still tend to think it doesn't have it.
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Posted: 2005-10-28 18:15
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yes it does have a cover as can be seen here (well, not a cover per se, but more a protective lens)



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Posted: 2005-10-28 20:48
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I am surprised that it doesn't have stereo speakers like the samsung d600,I don't care about it but it's a ''walkman'' phone and so has to be superior in quality sound no?
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Posted: 2005-10-28 21:18
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Got it in my hand, no cover besides a bit of clear plastic.
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Posted: 2005-10-28 22:16
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I have to say Im not all that satisfied with the videorecording.

For the first part, the audio is still only very low quality amr 12kbit/s 8000hz, which is unbearable to listen to. It should have been aac audio.

Secondly the picture quality of the videorecording isnt really that amazing either. Even though its higher resolution and higher framerate (which is naturally good) than the K750, the bitrate is to low and comparably actually lower pr.bits than on the K750 which gives more compression artifacts and macroblocs than it does on the K750.

Since the total number of bits (320x240=76800) is 3 times as high as the total number of bits (176x144=25344) on the K750, and especially since framerate (30fps) is also 3 times as high, the needed bitrate should be atleast 3 times as high as on K750 to give the same picturequality pr. bits.
K750 records at up to 200kbit/s, to perform the same W900 should record in up to 600kbit/s but only records in up to 400kbit/s

Therefore bit by bit it records in lower quality than K750. Sure Its a bit sharper because of the higher resolution but still slightly dissapointing to me. The audioquality alone really puts me off.

I hate to say this, but just for comparison, the Samsungs E720/730/D600 etc. records at 352x288 at up to 650 kbit/s video (20fps), and they record in AAC audio at 64kb/s 11025 hz which gives acceptable audioquality bearable to listen to.

At this point, I dont think the W900 really does it for me.
Sure it has a larger screen, and more memory, but I allready have 40mb+512mb in my k750, its still the same platform and UI, still the same camera as my K750, I dont need 3g, videorecording isnt improved in a for me acceptable way and I've never really been that funned of the swiwel design, to clumsy to use with one hand.
I suspect I might just pass on this one, and wait for the next version.


vegetaleb
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Posted: 2005-10-28 23:34
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hey num did you get it because you are a SE tester or it's being released?
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Posted: 2005-10-29 00:15
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so why can't the k750 record videos as good as the Samsung E720? Both have cameras which are 2 mp's. Is it the software that lacking or the hardware.
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Posted: 2005-10-29 01:40
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it's a encoding matter like when you capture under windows in avi mpeg or wmv format,se has it own encoding level that should fit the video processor
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Posted: 2005-10-29 03:05
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@senninha, the whole point for me is an ACTIVE lense, that means when you open the lense it turns the camera on.

An actual lense cover also protects the glass cover from getting scratched, that is the point of a lense cover. If the lense cover is transparent but unremovable it's a bit pointless.
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