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brix25
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Posted: 2005-06-16 13:33
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@mario: Unfortunately can't help you there mate... She's told us about the virus but more than that I don't know... Wirelessmonkey should know more about it has he's always playing around with phones. Thank God I own an SE:-)

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mario2002
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Posted: 2005-06-16 13:58
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Brix not buying a particular cellphone because you are afraid of getting a virus is like not buying a cabriole because you are afraid the lightning may strike you while driving on a sunny day :-) the problem with the cellphones and viruses is the way how/where the operating system is stored.Mind you ,nokia will bring a hard drive cellphone in a few months.;-)

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brix25
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Posted: 2005-06-16 14:19
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It's the same reason why some people prefer Macs over PC's...it's matter of choice. Right now at this moment, S60 is more susceptible to attacks than any other platform. All of that said I still want the 6680.

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Posted: 2005-06-16 15:09
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Oh buddy you've got it a bit 'wrong'. To catch a s60'virus', it means you must actively want to install and start it.Also you can delete it whenever you want in a two step process without any antivirus program althou you get at least three of them too. I had two viruses on my cell just to impress my buddies but had to remove them to free some memory :-(

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WirelessMonkey
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Posted: 2005-06-16 16:04
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Unfortunately the last Nokia I had was a 3650 - the one with the round dial pad. Loved it. That was before the virus era when I was still one of the lone voices predicting the arrival of these menaces. Since then I've only used Sony Ericsson and the one Moto V3 (snazzy little toy). So, as you may deduce that I've been relatively immune from receiving these babies. I've tried the Symantec AV for PDAs - there again this only applies to MS Windows for Mobiles Edition and not Palm or other OS. Dudes - the solution is simple - avoid devices that attract nasties. Hence, when I went shopping for a laptop my choice was very simply to go with Apple. Apple's don't even need AV as Apple themselves protect their OS with a built-in firewall and frequent security updates. I do pity the Finns, I like their phones to, I do openly confess, as they are popular and popularity does equate with compatibility and app availability.
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Posted: 2005-06-16 16:04
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Does anyone know if its possible to setup a P910i to access the Vodafone live portal? Or do I need a Vodafone branded phone like the Vodacom site says?
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Posted: 2005-06-16 16:08
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@ bdcol

Again - Vodafone live! is designed to only be accessed from a live! cellphone. The reason is, amongst other, easier one-click functionality that is integrated with a wide variety of online services. Don't go messing with hacks either - it'll just make life more complicated for other users.
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Posted: 2005-06-16 19:16
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Here is a better representation of the Vodacom results. Again note the small data revenue slice - 4.7%

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brix25
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Posted: 2005-06-16 19:31
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@WirelessMonkey: I thought the idea would be to increase their data revenues in the future.
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WirelessMonkey
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Posted: 2005-06-16 20:20
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@ Brix

Okay here's the expert opinion on why data in the South African context is important:
With fewer new subscribers to sign up, and voice ARPU (avergae rev per user) falling, operators now have two main goals relating to their subscriber bases:
– Drive revenue growth through increasing adoption and usage of data services
– Reduce churn and increase subscriber acquisition by differentiating the service offerings (but not on cost)

Churn is high in South Africa - prepaid is down but still high with both MTN and Vodacom reporting 2005 churn at above 30% (down from just under 50% last year). Amongst contract this is much lower (under 10%). So, the idea I guess is to get people to log on and settle in. Data users are less likely to move across to other networks than pure voice users.

Mobile Data is Critical For:
– Service Differentiation
– Brand Enhancement
– Customer Segmentation
– Customer Retention
– Market Share Gains
– ARPU Preservation (at least) and Uplift (at best)
– Improved Bottom Line

On another note:

A sunny day in Cape Town... captured with the K750i panorama function that's kick ass - instead of reducing a single shot by cropping it to look panoramic, the K750 actually takes three individual shots: first shot is stored.. a grayed overlap of the end of the previous shot covers part of your next picture so that you can join it, and the same with a third shot. The camera then joins these three pictures into a high resolution panorama picture... okay so my overlapping isn't that great




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brix25
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Posted: 2005-06-16 21:24
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the K750 actually takes three individual shots: first shot is stored.. a grayed overlap of the end of the previous shot covers part of your next picture so that you can join it, and the same with a third shot. The camera then joins these three pictures into a high resolution panorama picture



The same as with the K700, just an overall improvement in the quality of the pictures...BTW have you tried developing any of the pics?
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Posted: 2005-06-16 21:25
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On 2005-06-15 20:16:26, WirelessMonkey wrote:
Ever wonder what those cellphone brand tech terminology means?:

NEW - Different color from previous design.
ALL NEW - Parts are not interchangeable with previous design.
FOOLPROOF OPERATION - No provision for adjustments.
ADVANCED DESIGN - The network doesn't understand it.
REDESIGNED - Previous flaws fixed - we hope.
YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT - We finally got one to work.
MAINTENANCE FREE - Impossible to fix.
MEETS ALL STANDARDS - Ours, not yours.
SOLID-STATE - Heavy as hell.
CUTTING-EDGE - incompatible with everything else.
INNOVATIVE - still serves no purpose.
WORLD FIRST - standby for 101 software patches.

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Sorry to break in this way guys, but @Wireless Monkey: Can I have permission to use the above post of yours on my site? I love it!!

And yes, I do agree that subscribers who use data tend to settle down and stay with one network over time than those just limiting their usage to voice.

The South African market is clearly more advanced than ours, but we are beginning to witness a surge in demand for data in Nigeria as well.
PS: I used to be known as AYA
brix25
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Posted: 2005-06-16 21:33
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@AYA: I think you can use it as long as you credit it. Any word on MTN-Nigeria have launched GPRS.
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WirelessMonkey
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Posted: 2005-06-16 22:34
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@ AYA

If it's said in public then it shared to all. You have my permission. As for the comment on data - DUDES I JUST WATCHED A MOVIE ON DSTV ON MY SE K600i OVER MTN 3G!!! Yeppppppeeee!!! *jumping for join*

Oh yeah... too all my webbed peeps from SA on Esato... dudes wait and see what MTN delivers before jumping the 3G train to join. I think that MTN may just deliver a kick ass package after experiencing their DSTV feed. Also, I noticed that eXactmobile also delivers 3G content. No news service but there is full track music.
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brix25
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Posted: 2005-06-17 01:42
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@monkeyman: Think MTN and Multichoice have a common shareholder namely Johnnic. Good to hear about your experience with 3G'el lo.

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