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| XperiaCute Joined: Jan 03, 2013
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 | I JUST thought Samsung fanboys hate Eldar Murtazin
   
 BTW, isn't Xperia Z1 screen better than Galaxy S4 & LG G 2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8HTvb-lQzY
 
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| -XYZ Joined: Jul 26, 2012
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 | Most probably not when it comes to viewing angles. 
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| Jubei1 Joined: Feb 19, 2013
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On 2013-09-05 22:43:52, Tsepz_GP wrote:
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 So the 2.2GHz S800 used by Sony is eating more power, is that why the Z Ultra had such a disappointing battery score at GSMArena? It got 52hours if I'm not mistaken, quite low for a 2013 flagship as compared to S4 and even Note2.
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 I wouldnt blame the chip in that case. I think 3000 mAh is just not enough for a 6,44 inch 1080p screen.
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| XperiaCute Joined: Jan 03, 2013
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On 2013-09-05 23:05:42, -XYZ wrote:
 Most probably not when it comes to viewing angles.
 
 
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| sami92a Joined: Dec 11, 2012
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On 2013-09-05 21:40:50, maiaramdan wrote:
 
On 2013-09-05 20:56:23, kewsvnet wrote:
 love what Sony have done with their announcement at IFA!
 Great Phone (check) - Honami (probably one of the best smartphones out there)
 Great Range of accessories to go with it (check)
 Great media services and cloud integration (check)
 Sony have just established themselves as the 'Apple' of Android with all that! and that using more open and standard based technologies!!!
 Kaz was right not to sell the Sony Entertainment...I like how they are integrating everything ONE SONY!!!!
 Now that Honami is out
 what are the realistic expectations of Honami mini?
 Is it realistic to expect it to be pretty much Honami with these differences:
 4.3" 720p screen
 2400mAh battery
 smaller body obviously
 or do we expect any other downgrades (I really hope not)
 [ This Message was edited by: kewsvnet on 2013-09-05 19:59 ] 720p 4.3" screen, with the same processor , with the z sized battery and Less camera pixel
 Maybe the same camera of Z1 but not 20 mp
 Maybe 16 or 13
 
 When will it come?
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| Tsepz_GP Joined: Dec 27, 2006
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On 2013-09-05 22:52:57, XperiaCute wrote:
 I JUST thought Samsung fanboys hate Eldar Murtazin     [ This Message was edited by: XperiaCute on 2013-09-05 21:58 ] 
 Oh, they did? Well, you learn something new everyday I guess.
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| Tsepz_GP Joined: Dec 27, 2006
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On 2013-09-05 23:07:12, Jubei1 wrote:
 
On 2013-09-05 22:43:52, Tsepz_GP wrote:
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 Jubei
 So the 2.2GHz S800 used by Sony is eating more power, is that why the Z Ultra had such a disappointing battery score at GSMArena? It got 52hours if I'm not mistaken, quite low for a 2013 flagship as compared to S4 and even Note2.
 [ This Message was edited by: Tsepz_GP on 2013-09-05 21:47 ] I wouldnt blame the chip in that case. I think 3000 mAh is just not enough for a 6,44 inch 1080p screen. 
 
 Ah yes, they skimped on its battery to make it super thin.
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| XperiaCute Joined: Jan 03, 2013
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On 2013-09-05 19:55:04, itsjustJOH wrote:
 I think the blonde one looks really cute, but the brunette on black dress beside the Asian on white looks very beautiful... oh, hey the Z1!
 
 
 well, here is your girl ..
       
 
   
 
 BTW, all the photos were taken from @Latter21 coverage of Chinese event ..
 
 
   
 
   
 source : http://www.digi-wo.com/thread-8274-1-1.html
 
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| Away Joined: Oct 15, 2012
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 Yeah except it doesnt work like that. The 2.2 (2.15 really) GHz chip runs on higher voltage than the 2.3 Ghz chip.
 
 
 
 Woops, my bad. I remember an insider saying long ago Sony weren't taking the highest clock due to battery life, I didn't know about the voltage, I made an assumption, I apologise.
 
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 My post wasn't aimed at jianlin, it was aimed at Mr exaggeration snide remarks guy.
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| Jubei1 Joined: Feb 19, 2013
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 | Keep in mind im not saying Z1 will have worse battery life. Far too many variables come into play for that 
 But my guess is that Sony chose the 2.2 Ghz chip because of cost reasons since its cheaper. Margins on these phones are tight and Sony is using expensive premium materials so they have to cut costs somewhere. Samsung and LG use cheap plastic wich allows them to spend more on the SoC
 
 Real world performance should be the same anyhow
 
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| vivftp Joined: Mar 10, 2012
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 | What're you talking about when you say, "Sony chose the 2.2 Ghz chip because of cost reasons since its cheaper"? It's the same S800 CPU, just clocked at a different frequency. Reasons for doing so could be anything from heat buildup to battery life. | 
| huiyi Joined: Dec 27, 2010
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 | Millet 3 "8974AB" edition this year and will not be listed. . We get the message "8974AB" officially listed until next year, "Millet 3" sale this year only "T4" version. . He was just bragging it. Sony "Z2" will be "8974AB" | 
| Jubei1 Joined: Feb 19, 2013
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On 2013-09-06 01:03:25, vivftp wrote:
 What're you talking about when you say, "Sony chose the 2.2 Ghz chip because of cost reasons since its cheaper"? It's the same S800 CPU, just clocked at a different frequency. Reasons for doing so could be anything from heat buildup to battery life.
 
 
 Look up the term "binning"
 
 The 2.3 Ghz version is the better binned part so its more expensive to purchase. The 2.2 Ghz runs on higher voltage and therefore also runs hotter wich is why its clocked lower and sold cheaper
 
 
 
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| Ricky D Joined: Feb 05, 2007
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 | @huiyi  Your translator translated '小米' to 'Millet' instead of 'Xiaomi' 
 Anyway, I think the point is that the image of the chipset 8974 vs 8974AB is that it was advertising the Xiaomi 3 handset as having the best chip out there.
 I have a dig bickYou read that wrong
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| Shotokan81 Joined: Jun 01, 2013
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 | Huiyi, buddy, tell us a bit about Z2 please. 
 2gb ram?
 Android kit kat or 5.0 ?
 Hardware stabilisation for still shots?
 5.2" display
 First model after kaz is done "fixing caertain things" at sony mobile?
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