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northmonkey
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Posted: 2013-09-19 18:58
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Xperia Z Camera, Battery and Screen improved with updates so I think the Z1 will do too.
Tsepz_GP
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Posted: 2013-09-19 18:59
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On 2013-09-19 18:51:11, MyP910 wrote:

On 2013-09-19 18:33:56, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Even the LG G2 managed a good 62hrs despite a larger display. Sony really need to sort this crap out.


They don't have to sort anything. There is no problem with the battery. My Xperia can last longer than Samsung. Go and ask around, you will hear that Sony's phone will always have decent battery.

Sure thing.
And my (insert brand) can last longer than a Sony, go and ask around, you will hear that (insert brand's name) will always have decent battery life.

Not much of an argument you're making there.

Cheers.
[ This Message was edited by: Tsepz_GP on 2013-09-19 18:00 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-19 19:02
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@Tsepz

Sorry but that's not the way it works, you should know better to respect other threads, you can't just be ignorant and say "you can just ignore my posts" it's sad that you don't seem to know good manners and right conduct.

Be thankful we don't do the same to your threads.
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unknownC151A
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Posted: 2013-09-19 19:04
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Unfortunately, the display lottery crap, originated here is totally false.
The only thing I can say that the one who started this fabrication have hurt Esato's reputation.
Btw, I going to play with a demo Xperia Z1 soon. Any requests?
moogoo
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Posted: 2013-09-19 19:09
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On 2013-09-19 18:56:24, Tsepz_GP wrote:

As someone who was a hardcore SE fan? It actually disappoints me, a lot, seeing many of the same mistakes in what is now Sony Mobile. If you don't like it then you can always ignore what I post.



As someone who was a _hardcore_ SE fan, you should be very happy with the Z1. If it's not for you, that's ok. But the Z1 is making huge waves in the mobile market and creating tons of buzz. It will undoubtedly help Sony sell lots of units, increase profits, and continue on their quest to be top 3 manufacturer. As a former _hardcore_ fan, you should be excited about all the GREAT things being said about the Z1, instead of simply focusing on negatives.

But, like you said.. you _WERE_ a hardcore SE fan. You no longer are. Your loss (imho)
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northmonkey
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Posted: 2013-09-19 19:09
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Already seen a few Z1's sell for £500 on Ebay so they have lost £50 in value within the first 2 days.
MyP910
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Posted: 2013-09-19 19:11
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On 2013-09-19 18:59:20, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Sure thing.
And my (insert brand) can last longer than a Sony, go and ask around, you will hear that (insert brand's name) will always have decent battery life.

Not much of an argument you're making there.

Cheers.
[ This Message was edited by: Tsepz_GP on 2013-09-19 18:00 ]



This is your problem actually. You only rely on a single test and ignore the real life usage. You quickly call it a mistake when it is not. Similarly, you call the viewing angle as a mistake, but you fail to see how the Z1 is much better than the latest Samsung offering. Again, there is no problem with the viewing angle. On top of that, you should know by now that Sony display is brighter than others especially compared to Amoled display.

May be you feel insecure but honestly, you don't have to worry about that.
moogoo
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Posted: 2013-09-19 19:11
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does ebay in the UK include vat though? if they are selling without vat, then it hasn't dropped..
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northmonkey
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Posted: 2013-09-19 19:13
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On 2013-09-19 19:11:30, moogoo wrote:
does ebay in the UK include vat though? if they are selling without vat, then it hasn't dropped..



Two ebay sellers here in the UK sold the Z1 for £500, one yesterday and one today and that is the total cost of the phone no extra VAT on top, Sony has massive competition from GS4, LG G2, Note 3, Iphone 5S and more so it's going to be difficult.
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Posted: 2013-09-19 19:20
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@northmonkey - well if there is no VAT then it is more expensive than what CLOVE and HANDTEC are selling it for.. and they're also giving a free smartwatch too
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unknownC151A
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Posted: 2013-09-19 19:20
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On 2013-09-19 19:13:08, northmonkey wrote:

On 2013-09-19 19:11:30, moogoo wrote:
does ebay in the UK include vat though? if they are selling without vat, then it hasn't dropped..



Two ebay sellers here in the UK sold the Z1 for £500, one yesterday and one today and that is the total cost of the phone no extra VAT on top, Sony has massive competition from GS4, LG G2, Note 3, Iphone 5S and more so it's going to be difficult.


Don't try to be funny here. It's clearly stated to be in "mint" condition.
He probably dent the phone or whatever. In my country phone resell market, Lumia phone value drops exponentially. A second hand Xperia Z cost more than a second hand Lumia 925. Why? Lumias have simply no demand.
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moogoo
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Posted: 2013-09-19 19:23
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^^ha i didn't even search, but if the Z1's aren't even BRAND NEW condition, that's even worse. overpriced but if they are selling used for 50 quid more than what a brand new one costs, that tells you how much Z1 is desired..
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northmonkey
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Posted: 2013-09-19 19:25
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On 2013-09-19 19:23:51, moogoo wrote:
^^ha i didn't even search, but if the Z1's aren't even BRAND NEW condition, that's even worse. overpriced but if they are selling used for 50 quid more than what a brand new one costs, that tells you how much Z1 is desired..



Your wrong, they are £560 on Clove including VAT and £500 on Ebay and they are 1 day old so basically brand new, they have bought them and don't want them so people can save themselves £60 by buying off Ebay.

I bought a Xperia Z off Ebay for £380 within 4 weeks of it being released, I think the Z1's will be available on Ebay for around £400 by the end of October.
Tsepz_GP
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Posted: 2013-09-19 19:28
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On 2013-09-19 19:11:20, MyP910 wrote:

On 2013-09-19 18:59:20, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Sure thing.
And my (insert brand) can last longer than a Sony, go and ask around, you will hear that (insert brand's name) will always have decent battery life.

Not much of an argument you're making there.

Cheers.
[ This Message was edited by: Tsepz_GP on 2013-09-19 18:00 ]



This is your problem actually. You only rely on a single test and ignore the real life usage. You quickly call it a mistake when it is not. Similarly, you call the viewing angle as a mistake, but you fail to see how the Z1 is much better than the latest Samsung offering. Again, there is no problem with the viewing angle. On top of that, you should know by now that Sony display is brighter than others especially compared to Amoled display.

May be you feel insecure but honestly, you don't have to worry about that.


Where did I say anything about viewing angle? And where did I say it was a mistake?
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Posted: 2013-09-19 19:31
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On 2013-09-19 19:25:54, northmonkey wrote:
Your wrong, they are £560 on Clove including VAT and £500 on Ebay and they are 1 day old so basically brand new, they have bought them and don't want them so people can save themselves £60 by buying off Ebay.

I bought a Xperia Z off Ebay for £380 within 4 weeks of it being released, I think the Z1's will be available on Ebay for around £400 by the end of October.


um...

YOU said..


Two ebay sellers here in the UK sold the Z1 for £500, one yesterday and one today and that is the total cost of the phone no extra VAT on top,


Last I checked, Clove sells a BRAND NEW Z1 with Smartwatch 2 for £470 (NO VAT). 470 < 500.

I understand if you are in the UK, you can save some money through ebay. but even with vat, you can get it from clove, sell the smartwatch, and your Z1 is still cheaper than 500 and brand new. I don't know about you, but I hate buying used things.. even if it's just 1 day.
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