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max_wedge
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Posted: 2007-09-22 11:14
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On 2007-09-22 09:57:31, mib1800 wrote:

btw: you are a true blue SE fans. You can even accept such bad quality video with total compliant. bravo.

there is nothing compliant about it. I have a choice the evils of Nokia or the evils of SE. SE has less evils in my view, and more advantages, so therefore I choose to live with those evils. No matter which phone I choose to live with I'm going to have shortcomings.

Video and Wifi are only two components of a much bigger picture. Those two aspects I can wait for, but the K850 5MP camera I want now (or as soon as I can get it). I also want to retain the SE UI. The K850 has hsdpa which solves the problem of 3G currency. The java application availability suits my most important application needs, the phone features are what I need etc etc. I'm not settling for second best in choosing the K850, it's better for my needs than the N95.

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Posted: 2007-09-22 12:11
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dont even compare HTML on K800 with that on Nokia. I've seen browsing on K800 and its quite pathetic for "full HTML"
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Posted: 2007-09-22 12:13
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Lol true but I only browse on wap.esato.com on Opera Mini so I don't need the fancy browser

This message was posted from a K800i
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Posted: 2007-09-22 12:27
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On 2007-09-22 12:11:48, QVGA wrote:
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dont even compare HTML on K800 with that on Nokia. I've seen browsing on K800 and its quite pathetic for "full HTML"


i wasn't comparing the browsing experience, I was comparing memory utilisation, which was the line of conversation we were pursuing. If we were specifically talking about browsing experience I'd be the first to agree, and I've said before that I've used the N73 and found it's browser much better than the K800.

I think you 'll find it's not me that's one-eyed and biased about phone preferences.

And I still think it's dismal that N95 can't run music without the browser slowing down. Woeful.


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Posted: 2007-09-22 12:32
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Thats why the phone slows down, because its opening the page exactly the way it opens on a PC, something K800 doesnt which is why it remains stable.
A full webpage, like your inbox(hotmail), or say, www.cnet.com can take up to 1-2MB of data to show completely and to generate that much of data within seconds can slow a phone down.
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Posted: 2007-09-22 12:34
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On 2007-09-22 09:35:34, QVGA wrote:

On 2007-09-22 06:26:15, max_wedge wrote:

On 2007-09-22 06:16:48, mib1800 wrote:
In this case you must have some active background apps/processes that are competing with video recorder for processor time. Close your IM or similar apps may help

sorry for the off-topic


Sorry mib, no background apps I appreciate the tips, but I know enough about phones not to overlook something so simple as that my friend. I got the Lemon N70. It's on the latest firmware too.

At this rate, I'm better off with the K850 video (phew, slid back on topic with bases loaded)


N70 runs on the old symbian. No need to say anything about it. The Symbian 9.1 is far better than the Symbian 8.xx
And you tell me one NEW thing K850 brings to the table? Name ONE! Same UI, that most people are getting bored off, sub standard video recording (all major brands have VGA capable phones). 2MP increase from K800 without any noticeable increase in picture quality. Whatever SE does has already been done before.
Nokia brought GPS to a main stream phone, previously, i guess only PDA's had it, not sure. 2.6'' screen, the first ever for a hard screen phone (excluding black berrys) Dual slider, again the first ever. 3.5mm jack, that SE is scared to use. 160MB internal memory, 3x -4x bigger than K850. VGA video at 30FPS, which SE phone can do the same? N-Gage platform, what about gaming on K850?

P.S the only time my N71 suffers from low memory is when i'm opening a full HTML page on nokia's brilliant browser(compared to SE's pathetic one) and listening to music.
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[ This Message was edited by: QVGA on 2007-09-22 08:37 ]

K850, i think, is actually a good gamingphone, because of its accelerator. but i do agree, that n95 is better than k850 in gaming
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Posted: 2007-09-22 12:37
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Hmmm CNET, they have some great ads don't they

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=155497 [addsig]
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Posted: 2007-09-22 12:47
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On 2007-09-22 12:32:01, QVGA wrote:
Thats why the phone slows down, because its opening the page exactly the way it opens on a PC, something K800 doesnt which is why it remains stable.
A full webpage, like your inbox(hotmail), or say, http://www.cnet.com can take up to 1-2MB of data to show completely and to generate that much of data within seconds can slow a phone down.



The slowness you are talking about above is just due to the slow bandwidth of mobile internet. This speed would be the same on any phone. but before you said that using music and the internet together causes memory issues. I repeat again, if playing music while viewing an internet page, even full html, causes your phone to have low memory, that's poor performance.
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Posted: 2007-09-22 12:55
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On 2007-09-22 12:47:54, max_wedge wrote:

On 2007-09-22 12:32:01, QVGA wrote:
Thats why the phone slows down, because its opening the page exactly the way it opens on a PC, something K800 doesnt which is why it remains stable.
A full webpage, like your inbox(hotmail), or say, http://www.cnet.com can take up to 1-2MB of data to show completely and to generate that much of data within seconds can slow a phone down.



The slowness you are talking about above is just due to the slow bandwidth of mobile internet. This speed would be the same on any phone. but before you said that using music and the internet together causes memory issues. I repeat again, if playing music while viewing an internet page, even full html, causes your phone to have low memory, that's poor performance.


It might be, but then again N71 only has 47MB total RAM where as N95 has far more. And the 8GB one has 128MB so i doubt it suffers this problem.
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Posted: 2007-09-22 13:34
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It might be, but then again N71 only has 47MB total RAM where as N95 has far more. And the 8GB one has 128MB so i doubt it suffers this problem.


No doubt. Sorry I thought you were talking about N95 N71 it's more understandable. Sounds about the same as my N70.

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Posted: 2007-09-22 13:50
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On 2007-09-22 12:47:54, max_wedge wrote:
The slowness you are talking about above is just due to the slow bandwidth of mobile internet. This speed would be the same on any phone. but before you said that using music and the internet together causes memory issues. I repeat again, if playing music while viewing an internet page, even full html, causes your phone to have low memory, that's poor performance.



Actually there is no prob with music + web. People dont realise this. The music playing is not the RAM hogger. It is the visualisation of the music player UI that hogs the RAM. So once you have started the music, click on the back button on the music player until the "phone" option is shown. Click on this and immediately music player goes in the background and unloads the the unnecessary UI components. You immediately see a lot of RAM being released. DONT just press the menu key to put the music to background as this does not unload the music app UI components.

I never have any issue with music player + web. The music player app takes up only 0.7Mb of RAM. The main issue is the OSS browser which use 5-6Mb of RAM just to load itself. Load up a web page of 1-2Mb with animations +wifi + music + cache + all other running background processes then you may run into memory issues.
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Posted: 2007-09-22 14:28
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TICK TACK tick tack............8 days left..........

i gonna my new Luminous Green


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On 2007-09-22 14:28:32, plankgatan wrote:
TICK TACK tick tack............8 days left..........

i gonna my new Luminous Green

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Why You said 8 days
it's seems to be the mid of October
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Posted: 2007-09-22 14:38
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1 or 3 oktober i get my k850i....i dont know when you get yours.... only know that this company get it first in Sweden (Europe).

i bought a pair of new Headphones some days ago.....BUY THIS HEADPHONES, THEY ARE FREAKING AWESOME. they gonna fit fine to my new k850


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not sure if this has been posted before but heres stuff magazines short but sweet review of the k850i.
http://stuff.tv/review/sony-ericsson-k850i/default.aspx
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