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Mr[NiK]
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Posted: 2007-12-17 17:44
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im a flippin flip user too (p800, p900 and my p990 too) [addsig]
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Posted: 2007-12-17 17:59
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The P800, P900, and P910 all needed the flip, no question - without it, full screen UIQ2 was in no way optimised for finger use, and just couldn't be used one-handed very easily, if at all.

In the P990, SE deliberately arranged its version of UIQ3 so that it was the same - difficult to use one-handed without the flip, with the soft buttons positioned at the top of the screen for example, and only the qwerty keyboard available below the screen. But there was no need for this. The version of UIQ3 that was released on the M600i, before the P990 even came out, was designed for one-handed use without the flip. They did this simply by moving the soft buttons to the bottom of the screen, within easy thumb reach, and adding a dual-use keypad that had standard phone keys as well as qwerty. The same, ultimately successful design which was used a year later on the P990's successor, the P1.

With this design, there is simply no need for the cut down "flip closed" mode found in the P990. Rather than a limited selection of cut-down apps especially made for the P990, all the full screen standard UIQ3 apps can be used one-handed on both the M600i and P1. If they don't build and improve on that in the P5, rather than revisiting the pointless flip designs of the past, then UIQ will be going backwards rather than forwards.
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Posted: 2007-12-17 18:00
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flip is a MUST for my p910i! just cant type as fast using anything else! and it is so much convenient, to switch on bluetooth, to send n recieve sms with Awesome T9, to make calls, one hand operation its the best! i really don't know if i can get used to a non-t9 phone if the p5i is going to be that way...
mkouk
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Posted: 2007-12-17 19:47
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On 2007-12-17 18:00:10, CrazyGuns wrote:
flip is a MUST for my p910i! just cant type as fast using anything else! and it is so much convenient, to switch on bluetooth, to send n recieve sms with Awesome T9, to make calls, one hand operation its the best! i really don't know if i can get used to a non-t9 phone if the p5i is going to be that way...


All UIQ3 phones have predictive text (t9) in the same way your P910 has, the only difference is that you use a different keyboard to enter the initial string of the word from which the phone will then provide you with suggestions. So, i am guessing the P5i will be exactly the same if it has a keyboard, but we don't know that yet, do we?
Jejoma
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Posted: 2007-12-17 22:24
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I agree with Boinng. I've had my P1 for 4 months now and don't miss the flip. In fact, I find it far easier to use than my previous P990 with the flip.

The simple act of moving the soft keys to the bottom of the screen has transformed UIQ3. It took me a while to get used to the rocker keys for text input but now I find them easier than those of the P990 (I never tried the P910 - the fold down keyboard and tiny keys just did not appeal).
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Posted: 2007-12-17 23:08
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Boys take it easy...................look this one CES 2008 Januarie 7-10

http://www.sony.com/ces/index.html

I think.................SonyEricsson is also there.


Lets our fingers cross
xironghostx
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Posted: 2007-12-17 23:39
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On 2007-12-17 23:08:43, gothic3 wrote:
Boys take it easy...................look this one CES 2008 Januarie 7-10

http://www.sony.com/ces/index.html

I think.................SonyEricsson is also there.


Lets our fingers cross


I want all of those thingies combined into one device, P5i
gothic3
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Posted: 2007-12-17 23:45
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On 2007-12-17 23:39:50, xironghostx wrote:

On 2007-12-17 23:08:43, gothic3 wrote:
Boys take it easy...................look this one CES 2008 Januarie 7-10

http://www.sony.com/ces/index.html

I think.................SonyEricsson is also there.


Lets our fingers cross


I want all of those thingies combined into one device, P5i



Indeed, i hope that SE show us nice handsets.
Now i play with Gothic 3
NightBlade
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Posted: 2007-12-18 00:26
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Now i play with Gothic 3

Unreal Tournament 3 FTW!
Supa_Fly
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Posted: 2007-12-18 03:28
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On 2007-12-17 23:08:43, gothic3 wrote:
Boys take it easy...................look this one CES 2008 Januarie 7-10

http://www.sony.com/ces/index.html

I think.................SonyEricsson is also there.


Lets our fingers cross


^ good find. This solidify's the rumors of the PS3 to stream content to the Mobile phone (that was highlighted in that 1 off W880i from the head of PS3 marketing). Remote Play is already there for the PSP, so I'm sure we'll see the PS3 stream to future or current high end SE phones. These two MUST work more together.

Look at the icons and tell me thats not close to the PS3's XrossBar.?!

Hmm.
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gothic3
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Posted: 2007-12-18 03:43
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On 2007-12-18 03:28:57, Prom1 wrote:

On 2007-12-17 23:08:43, gothic3 wrote:
Boys take it easy...................look this one CES 2008 Januarie 7-10

http://www.sony.com/ces/index.html

I think.................SonyEricsson is also there.


Lets our fingers cross


^ good find. This solidify's the rumors of the PS3 to stream content to the Mobile phone (that was highlighted in that 1 off W880i from the head of PS3 marketing). Remote Play is already there for the PSP, so I'm sure we'll see the PS3 stream to future or current high end SE phones. These two MUST work more together.

Look at the icons and tell me thats not close to the PS3's XrossBar.?!

Hmm.



Prom1......................it will happen mark my words .

"Seems that Sony's not only trying to compete with Xbox Live and Nintendo's similar services, but also with Apple's iTunes. The news of the day is that the PS3 will be able to hook up to your cellphone and you surely know that this is just another reason for those PSP Phone rumors to resurface. We're already loving the Remote Play functionality featured on the PlayStation Portable and PlayStation 3 and we guess that it can be expanded in order to allow the next-gen gaming device to connect to many other gadgets.

Linking a PS3 to a mobile phone means hardcore media streaming and maybe a chance to take screenshots and capture videos from the games you play, plus some neat content management of your saves and files. We'll see this new feature being launched by April 2008, probably with the aid of a brand new firmware. I'm curios to see if the connectivity option is only available for Sony's phones, or we'll be able to hook up iPhones to our beloved consoles.

Can you read into the future and really figure out what such a feature means? Here's a couple of high-tech lucky guesses (even reaching sci-fi levels at times):

* We'll play games using our Sony Ericsson phones as joysticks, maybe even taking advantage of their vibration function and accelerometer

* In case you're hooking up a phone with a pretty big storage space to the console, you'll be able to transfer your saves or even copy demos on the next-gen device

* Maybe the streaming process will be able to work in reverse, allowing us to check out YouTube content on the PS3

* Guess what? Connecting a phone that has a QWERTY keypad to your PS3 means that you'll be able to type messages faster and sometimes even pretend that you're playing a PC game

Speculations aside, there's still a long road ahead of us and some serious waiting time before the novelty kicks in, so let's enjoy the Remote Play for now and hope for the best."
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Posted: 2007-12-18 04:00
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Oh of this I have now doubt. Especially with rumored PS3 Firmware update v2.1 coming out tomorrow I'll confirm here shortly as I own a PS3 80GB.

This new update will feature DIVX (some limitations I'm not sure of what is limited) but its a BIG boon. Since Xbox 360 already got DIVX just 3wks ago.

Good times ahead, good times.
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Posted: 2007-12-18 10:43
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On 2007-12-18 04:00:52, Prom1 wrote:
Oh of this I have now doubt. Especially with rumored PS3 Firmware update v2.1 coming out tomorrow I'll confirm here shortly as I own a PS3 80GB.

This new update will feature DIVX (some limitations I'm not sure of what is limited) but its a BIG boon. Since Xbox 360 already got DIVX just 3wks ago.

Good times ahead, good times.



Confirmed DivX is available on PS3 FIrmware update 2.10 for North America.
Issues not being able to view stage6.com videos in same format; unsure why?!
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gothic3
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Posted: 2007-12-18 11:50
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On 2007-12-18 10:43:53, Prom1 wrote:

On 2007-12-18 04:00:52, Prom1 wrote:
Oh of this I have now doubt. Especially with rumored PS3 Firmware update v2.1 coming out tomorrow I'll confirm here shortly as I own a PS3 80GB.

This new update will feature DIVX (some limitations I'm not sure of what is limited) but its a BIG boon. Since Xbox 360 already got DIVX just 3wks ago.

Good times ahead, good times.



Confirmed DivX is available on PS3 FIrmware update 2.10 for North America.
Issues not being able to view stage6.com videos in same format; unsure why?!



I own last crap 360 and sell them to a xbotfanboy
Week ago i buy a PS3 40 GIG version and soon my PS3 has 200 GIG.

You know why.......................it's the crapbox doesnt allow you to watch

My PS3 is far better than the 360, drake's fortune, a master game with the best grafich and soon Gothic4.

masseur
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Posted: 2007-12-18 11:55
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can we stay on topic please....

this is NOT ps3 vs 360
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