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dibdin
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On 2013-09-19 13:29:54, Geoffxx wrote:
Is it really possible that some people are coming on here and making up purchase stories and trying to discredit the Z1 - is it possible ?
Who knows, but personally I don't think so. It's perfectly plausible that some who have got there Z1 from Clove are experiencing such flaws with the display.
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DexterMoser
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On 2013-09-19 07:04:19, supercoolman wrote:
this review said Z1 only has mono speaker. wonder if that's true or not.
I think that might be accurate.
Look at the teardown, in this picture that white thing on the bottom could be the speaker, there's only one of them.
On the other side of the speaker grill there could be the microphone.
BTW:
There's also a speaker comparison between Z1 and Note 3 in the review evilhomura89 posted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP5Ov4zcJE0
Z1: 80.5 dB
Note 3: 86.6 dB
Even though the Note 3 sounds much better and louder, 80.5 dB are decent I think.
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Geoffxx
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after reading that whole article (well written IMO) there is a clue at the bottom that again explains why the screen is reported as the same as the Z ASV - at the time of the review they had no idea on price or availability of the retail handset in their region which would indicate again as we have found on many early reviews - that the test device was a preproduction model or prototype - the review credibility gets shafted even though it was very well done
For thise that have the phone already it could be easy to prove my point by looking at the pixels through a microscope and see if they are the same as above
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DexterMoser
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^ Yeah, you're right.
They just speculate, they don't know for sure.
In the technical characteristics of the company Sony, like many other manufacturers, indicates that the matrix is applied type TFT, without specifying its specific type. Perhaps, in this smartphone is set matrix type ASV.
(that's just google translate)
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dalmac
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On 2013-09-19 13:52:25, DexterMoser wrote:
BTW:
There's also a speaker comparison between Z1 and Note 3 in the review evilhomura89 posted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP5Ov4zcJE0
Z1: 80.5 dB
Note 3: 86.6 dB
Even though the Note 3 sounds much better and louder, 80.5 dB are decent I think.
[ This Message was edited by: DexterMoser on 2013-09-19 12:56 ]
It should be noted (everyone prob knows this already, but just in case) that since decibels work on a logarithmic* scale, the values posted above would make the Note 3 more than 50% louder than the Z1.
(e.g 90 decibels vs 80 decibels is 10 times more intense but is perceived as twice as loud to the human ear) |
Jiggs29
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http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4551/4881453/1/ |
CrownedAkuma
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On 2013-09-19 14:55:19, dalmac wrote:
On 2013-09-19 13:52:25, DexterMoser wrote:
BTW:
There's also a speaker comparison between Z1 and Note 3 in the review evilhomura89 posted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP5Ov4zcJE0
Z1: 80.5 dB
Note 3: 86.6 dB
Even though the Note 3 sounds much better and louder, 80.5 dB are decent I think.
[ This Message was edited by: DexterMoser on 2013-09-19 12:56 ]
It should be noted (everyone prob knows this already, but just in case) that since decibels work on a logarithmic* scale, the values posted above would make the Note 3 more than 50% louder than the Z1.
(e.g 90 decibels vs 80 decibels is 10 times more intense but is perceived as twice as loud to the human ear)
we need some human science here...
the human ear is organized logaritmically not for intesity (or decibel) but for frequenze (Hz)... still our perception of the intensity is logaritmically percieved as you said, in base 10.
Still our ear can percieve sounds between 0-1dB and 120dB but it need to be noted that from 60-70dB above our Receptors are "full" and the perception of the intensity beacame less precise...
Also if Note 3 is 86 and Z1 is 80, the difference is a mere 6dB... and logaritmically speaking is more or less 4 times...
Also when talking about perception you should always remember what is important is the relative difference... from 0 dB to 6 dB you can percieve a GREAT difference... from 80dB to 86dB the deifference is way LESS!
You should also consider that sensibility and perception depends on frequence... maximum perception is between 400Hz and 4000Hz and high sounds are percieved better than low!
Try hearing a sound at 80 or 86 and tell me if it seems 4 times louder!!! 
I do not know how decibel work... but I know how the ear work and also perception... (Medicine Student here...  ) |
dalmac
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On 2013-09-19 15:11:03, CrownedAkuma wrote:
Also if Note 3 is 86 and Z1 is 80, the difference is a mere 6dB... and logaritmically speaking is more or less 4 times...
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Try hearing a sound at 80 or 86 and tell me if it seems 4 times louder!!!
I didn't say it was 4 times louder, I said 50% louder. And no where did I say that intensity is equivalent to loudness, which is why I said the following:
"e.g 90 decibels vs 80 decibels is 10 times more intense but is perceived as twice as loud to the human ear"
I'm a bit confused - not too sure if you are agreeing with me or not! |
DexterMoser
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btw I'm agreeing with you all 
The difference in loudness is pretty good noticeable in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP5Ov4zcJE0
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randomuser
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Video talking about the screen and viewing angles 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrXCb80tOZs |
moogoo
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^i posted that a few pages back randomuser..
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randomuser
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Oops sorry
So far from what I've gathered, viewing angles are not an issue. Screen is as good as Z Ultra. |
CrownedAkuma
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On 2013-09-19 15:30:40, dalmac wrote:
On 2013-09-19 15:11:03, CrownedAkuma wrote:
Also if Note 3 is 86 and Z1 is 80, the difference is a mere 6dB... and logaritmically speaking is more or less 4 times...
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Try hearing a sound at 80 or 86 and tell me if it seems 4 times louder!!!
I didn't say it was 4 times louder, I said 50% louder. And no where did I say that intensity is equivalent to loudness, which is why I said the following:
"e.g 90 decibels vs 80 decibels is 10 times more intense but is perceived as twice as loud to the human ear"
I'm a bit confused - not too sure if you are agreeing with me or not!
Just pointing out
more agreeing than disagreeing...  |
Ermac84
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I pulled the trigger yesterday and ordered a black C6903 from Handtec. According to FedEx it should arrive tomorrow on Friday! , Apprently AT&T uses 1700 LTE band in my city Raleigh, I'll update you guys... |
sponse
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in italy you can buy the z1 on the sony store for 700 euro bundled with wireless headset for free (they cost 100 euro in the sony store).
or in other site i found that you can buy the Z1 bundled with the smartwatch 2 for 700 euro.
i want to wait a little bit so the major stores will get it, i don't want to pay more than 600 euro for the device and i couldn't care less about the wireless headset or the smartwatch 2:P |
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