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nightwing369
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On 2013-08-30 09:37:44, Ambroos wrote:
Honami's release firmware will be in the same branch as the recently release Z Ultra firmware, so 4.2.2.
Oh right. Thanks for clearing that up. Still, I was hoping for a surprise at IFA in that it would release with 4.3
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Wishmaster89
Joined: Jun 02, 2006
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From: Warsaw, Poland
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On 2013-08-30 09:37:44, Ambroos wrote:
Honami's release firmware will be in the same branch as the recently release Z Ultra firmware, so 4.2.2.
Do you know if for 4.3 update Sony merged Z/ZL, Z Ultra and Honami in the same branch?
Considering similar hardware and backwards compatibility of s800 it could be possible although probably unlikely, more probably they keep different branches for s4 Pro and s800 devices. |
unknownC151A
Joined: Oct 15, 2012
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On 2013-08-30 10:04:11, Wishmaster89 wrote:
On 2013-08-30 09:37:44, Ambroos wrote:
Honami's release firmware will be in the same branch as the recently release Z Ultra firmware, so 4.2.2.
Do you know if for 4.3 update Sony merged Z/ZL, Z Ultra and Honami in the same branch?
Considering similar hardware and backwards compatibility of s800 it could be possible although probably unlikely, more probably they keep different branches for s4 Pro and s800 devices.
100% not possible |
Wishmaster89
Joined: Jun 02, 2006
Posts: 333
From: Warsaw, Poland
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On 2013-08-30 10:48:02, unknownC151A wrote:
100% not possible
Probably didn't make myself 100% clear, what I meant is not whole system at the same branch but Sony's customization.
I know that android 4.3 image from qualcomm for s4 pro and s800 are totally different but low-level software written for s800 should be 99% compatible with s4 pro, unless it uses things that aren't available on s4 pro.
It would guarantee the same new UI for Xperia Z with all improvements, that can be applied to s4 pro of course, ex. move to openGL ES 3.0 for Sony UI on 4.3 (just an example, don't know if it will happen). |
HxH
Joined: Dec 26, 2008
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haven't read this article yet but title would intrigue some of you in some way
Sony SmartWatch Review: Maybe the Worst Thing Sony Has Ever Made
http://gizmodo.com/5926728/so[....]worst-thing-sony-has-ever-made
SONY x Sexy x Sleek x Solid x Stunner x Stylish : Nozomi/Kagura with Love. |
DexterMoser
Joined: Jul 03, 2013
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From: Bay Harbor Islands, Miami
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^ That's the old smartwatch.
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unknownC151A
Joined: Oct 15, 2012
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On 2013-08-30 10:55:04, Wishmaster89 wrote:
On 2013-08-30 10:48:02, unknownC151A wrote:
100% not possible
Probably didn't make myself 100% clear, what I meant is not whole system at the same branch but Sony's customization.
I know that android 4.3 image from qualcomm for s4 pro and s800 are totally different but low-level software written for s800 should be 99% compatible with s4 pro, unless it uses things that aren't available on s4 pro.
It would guarantee the same new UI for Xperia Z with all improvements, that can be applied to s4 pro of course, ex. move to openGL ES 3.0 for Sony UI on 4.3 (just an example, don't know if it will happen).
It is still 100% not happening. I know Xperia Z users are itching for Honami's UI, but Sony will never merge branch of different SOCs.
It's a different team working on different SOC.
However, Xperia Ion merged with Xperia S, though they used the same CPU.
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Shotokan81
Joined: Jun 01, 2013
Posts: 408
From: 東京
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I told you so on July 3rd, page 892 
But actually I think this is sad they could not make inroads in international markets.
NEC should also pull out.
I hope for Sharp and Fujitsu they will find a way to sell abroad (I anticipate Softbank will help out sharp through sprint).
Casio and Kyocera are not major players even in Japan, but i heard Casio was strating selling rugged models in us
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CrownedAkuma
Joined: Jun 28, 2013
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From: North-East Italy
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guys today I went to my local phone store... It was a lot of time since the last time I saw a Z with my eyes and I had it in my hand... so I asked... an boy if it is an awesome device..  I forgot how gorgeous it was... even the display!! and the bezels are little!!!  they are perfect... so I thought if Honami has bezels just a little (really little) bigger... how can the haters complain?? after seeing the Z again I'm sure, Honami is already mine... I grow such a craving for that phone today! luckily there are few day till the 9/4  |
abrahavt
Joined: Aug 30, 2013
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Don't think Sony can make inroads into North America till they start selling through the 4 major carriers. Was hoping to get the Z1 but if it is not available through ATT I will probably pass and get the Nexus 5 instead. |
amirprog
Joined: Aug 22, 2013
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the criticism on sony is that they are late with releasing devices, late in the battle, for example, no OIS in honami while g2 already got it, late with software updates (they seemed to improve that), camera quality is mediocre because of software even when they sell other companies their camera sensors, the competition does a much better job with the software, the screen quality is mediocre, there are even criticism on trilluminos that it still got mediocre viewing angles and still looks dull - only when you get into photos the bravia engine is starting to work (x reality is the same right?), mediocre speaker. that's what i hear all the time. feel free to elaborate, maybe sony reads forums? they do listen to their consumers, right?
i can't wait to watch homani vs note 3 and g2 comparisons from mobile channels and websites. let's see how it holds against them. let the battle begin.  soon...
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admad
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So I haven't been here a while, and I heard some disturbing news. What's the current status on hardware stabilization in Honami? Does it really lack stabilization? That would be an epic fail. |
Shotokan81
Joined: Jun 01, 2013
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Yes we had this debate already.
No hardware stabilisation, and no epic fail, thank you for not bringing this back.
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Ambroos
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On 2013-08-30 10:04:11, Wishmaster89 wrote:
On 2013-08-30 09:37:44, Ambroos wrote:
Honami's release firmware will be in the same branch as the recently release Z Ultra firmware, so 4.2.2.
Do you know if for 4.3 update Sony merged Z/ZL, Z Ultra and Honami in the same branch?
Considering similar hardware and backwards compatibility of s800 it could be possible although probably unlikely, more probably they keep different branches for s4 Pro and s800 devices.
Z series remain on a different branch but gets backports of most Honami apps and the system style. |
northmonkey
Joined: Feb 09, 2009
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I agree with Amirprog and Admad, Sony has screwed it from the off this time.
No OIS is a massive epic fail, no 4.3 out of the box and other issues.
Even HTC One and G2 has OIS, Honami will be released a long time after the HTC One yet it doesn't have OIS, why? Poor again from Sony, always behind and will never be on top because they never have killer features.
Will be destroyed by the Note 3 and the G2.
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