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DACHA
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Posted: 2014-01-20 22:03
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SD 805 will be outdated before it even release. Samsung and Apple are/will be on 20nm and 805 will be produced using 28nm technology. 20nm and 64 bit.
DexterMoser
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Posted: 2014-01-20 22:12
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Holy *!
I didn't teally expect that much.

But this is phenomenal, this reminds me of Sony at CES, WOW WOW JUST WOW WOW !!!!!!
WOW.

4K, SlowMo, GloveMode, S-Force, StereoSpeaker, remains IP58, WhiteBalance, DoubleTap2wake and bigger screen within the same size

I don't know what to say, just WOW!
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Posted: 2014-01-20 22:17
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looks like everyone is waiting for qualcomm new chip to release new flagship. As nice as new eyxnos can be, they probably can't make enough to supply the demand, have to mix in some snapdragon variants for different market. I think Apple might further increase the gap in CPU performance this year since s800 cant really keep up with ip5s. don't think s805 bump in clock speed with make much of a difference but its GPU should be more or less on par with news iphone I am guessing.
CrownedAkuma
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Posted: 2014-01-20 22:22
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On 2014-01-20 22:12:20, DexterMoser wrote:
Holy *!
I didn't teally expect that much.

But this is phenomenal, this reminds me of Sony at CES, WOW WOW JUST WOW WOW !!!!!!
WOW.

4K, SlowMo, GloveMode, S-Force, StereoSpeaker, remains IP58, WhiteBalance, DoubleTap2wake and bigger screen within the same size

I don't know what to say, just WOW!



It just needs IPS and then it's done :3 the perfect phone for me and a lot of people out there!
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Posted: 2014-01-20 22:33
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wish they can offer trade in prioblem for z1 lol, I believe the size is a bit bigger, bezel doesn't seems improved, just screen gotten bigger.
DexterMoser
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Posted: 2014-01-20 22:36
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^I think Doomlord mentioned that it's IPS, right?

It kind if sickens me to wait more than one months until this device will be released (officially then ).
I'm so excited about the camera (esp. features) and the speakers!
I'd have never believed in stereo speakers, I thought Sirius would just be a Z1 with the S800AB, 3GB RAM and a bigger screen.
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Posted: 2014-01-20 22:38
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On 2014-01-20 22:36:08, DexterMoser wrote:
^I think Doomlord mentioned that it's IPS, right?

It kind if sickens me to wait more than one months until this device will be released (officially then ).
I'm so excited about the camera (esp. features) and the speakers!
I'd have never believed in stereo speakers, I thought Sirius would just be a Z1 with the S800AB, 3GB RAM and a bigger screen.



which it basically is, lots of the new stuffs seems to be software base
my ninja
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Posted: 2014-01-20 22:40
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On 2014-01-20 22:03:10, DACHA wrote:
SD 805 will be outdated before it even release. Samsung and Apple are/will be on 20nm and 805 will be produced using 28nm technology. 20nm and 64 bit.


Thats ALL ive been saying.. they are a step behind after being a step ahead.. the problem is that their radio integration is enough to strong arm competition it can only last for so long before someone jumps ship.. Im just saying that the node, and bit depth are too much to ignore this year. that in addition to the use of LPDDR4.. the 805 to me, is a market misread.

Denver's power draw will probably be to high for phones... tablets MAYBE but of course all of this has yet to be seen. the s805 may dominate, but not on the strength of its CPU. there just isnt that many options for smaller OEMs like Sony.. Sammy cant even supply themselves so (in a manner of speaking, selling A7s is more profitable)
CrownedAkuma
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Posted: 2014-01-20 22:47
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On 2014-01-20 22:33:48, Gitaroo wrote:
wish they can offer trade in prioblem for z1 lol, I believe the size is a bit bigger, bezel doesn't seems improved, just screen gotten bigger.

Yes the bezels are not that better (which as I already stated is not a big problem for me) at least this time is justified by the 5,2" screen AND the stereo speaker! Now the Bezels really means something
Still the omnibalance line is awesome
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Posted: 2014-01-20 22:51
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I hope for the competition on the mobile soc market that Samsung use their own chips in galaxy s5 and tegra k1 is a big hit in tablets. It's a shame ST-Ericsson was disbanded (even though they were a broken company), they were the only ones who could compete with Qualcomms radio integration. Their Thor modems were great.

Sirius looks awesome btw. Hope they use an awesome screen this time. It's almost impossible to recommend Sony anymore on Swedish tech-sites, always some troll bashing the screen...
Away
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Posted: 2014-01-20 23:10
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Shouldn't the sd805 be available around the same time as tk1 (a15 quad)? And isn't that in at least a few months?

The s805 is the result of Qualcomm destroying the competition thanks to ARM's a15 fail, and then becoming arrogant and falling asleep. Nvidia, Samsung and Apple are all leaving them behind this year.

But it doesn't matter when it comes to Apple - no one else uses their chips. Nor when it comes to Samsung, even their tab 10.1 (2014 edition) severely lags, so the real life usage advancement will be minimal. And I doubt they have the capacity to fulfill both themselves and Apple.

Qualcomm's sheer luck means they'll get many major design wins again. Less than last year, but still, quite a few.

The real question is the speed of the a15 K1 chips in phones, their thermal efficiency etc. I'm just clinging onto hope I guess.

How can Qualcomm go from hero to zero in 6 months??? Shameful.

HTC and Sony's dependence on Qualcomm will hurt them a lot this year...
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CrownedAkuma
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Posted: 2014-01-20 23:11
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trying to install AnTuTu

LOL THE NO LEAK POLICY
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Posted: 2014-01-20 23:14
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On 2014-01-20 22:47:27, CrownedAkuma wrote:

On 2014-01-20 22:33:48, Gitaroo wrote:
wish they can offer trade in prioblem for z1 lol, I believe the size is a bit bigger, bezel doesn't seems improved, just screen gotten bigger.

Yes the bezels are not that better (which as I already stated is not a big problem for me) at least this time is justified by the 5,2" screen AND the stereo speaker! Now the Bezels really means something
Still the omnibalance line is awesome


I don't have problem with the thinner side bezel, I actually like them because I have big hands, my thumbs and fingers will never cover the screen when I hold them unlike phones with thin bezel, but the thick bezel on top and bottom are the problems. I don't think they can reduce it because they have to fit the camera on the top side with nothing behind or they have to make it thicker due to the G lens. They also have to keep the omni balance design to make things symmetrical which I respect because one of the best thing about sony is design + engineering, unlike many companies that just slap everything together and call it finished. Only way to reduce size of the phone is probably the change in material. Like the trim around sirius is thinner than z1 it seems. Sirius looks like it might be getting even closer to note 3 size now, I rather they keep the 5" screen and goes other way to reduce the size like thinner trims around the phone.
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Posted: 2014-01-20 23:27
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S805 was 'expected 2H' which is most likely a hedge. It comes down to real world benchmarks (:P).. but yea again, its been quite a few years since the perception this early on in the year of the door being open to anyone. i dont know what the other companies are ACTUALLY planning. Just rumors against the S805 announcement.. which was well beneath what the market was predicting off of the back of Samsung and TSMC with respect to the A7 which is a 2013 chip. So *shrug* storm in a teacup.. we will observe.. GPUs all over the place, Modems (integrated vs discrete), CPUs all over the place.. and no way for the end user to choose their own combination.. that fits their needs.

Also I stated that there were stereo speakers a few pages back, great to see
DexterMoser
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Posted: 2014-01-20 23:30
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^ Yeah I noticed that you mentioned stereo speakers, my wildest dreams came true


On 2014-01-20 22:38:29, Gitaroo wrote:
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which it basically is, lots of the new stuffs seems to be software base

Stereo speakers and glove mode is hardware related. And it remains to be questioned if 4K and Slow Motion are just software or require some hardware changes like the faster/higher clocked GPU.

Nevertheless I didn't expect this, did you?

Big lol @Antutu
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