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Visual communication like never before with the Sony Ericsson Satio |
mikekop
Joined: Feb 16, 2006
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On 2009-11-17 12:28:49, HxH wrote:
Cracking up problem! need help ASAP
when I give a try with macro shot I noticed little cracking sound after taken photo, is it usual? 
I jus noticed that mine does the same! After the photo has been saved, I hear and feel a little "crack/pop" at my left hand when holding the phone in landscape view! It seems to do this only when photographing something very near (20 cm), and it´s not only in focus mode "Macro". I don't mind, and I don't think it's a fatal error in the phone, must be something with the hardware inside when focusing. |
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larry 68
Joined: Nov 09, 2007
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OOOOOhhh HxH your right, just tried it and you do get a click/pop a few seconds after, cant say I'd noticed it before, kind of feels like the focus retracting as I get similar feel as its setting the focus. |
davidsic
Joined: May 30, 2004
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On 2009-11-17 12:28:49, HxH wrote:
Cracking up problem! need help ASAP
when I give a try with macro shot I noticed little cracking sound after taken photo, is it usual?
yes it's normal, it's the lens that is recovering its place after focusing. This is more noticeable with macro than normal focus.
It's the same with all SE auto focus camera phone  |
HxH
Joined: Dec 26, 2008
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Thanks guys just relieved and better now, ex-partner (w850) never face this 
p.s. just first time noticed 
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mariozlp
Joined: May 29, 2007
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On 2009-11-17 13:43:57, HxH wrote:
Thanks guys just relieved and better now, ex-partner (w850) never face this
p.s. just first time noticed
i dont think w850 had autofocus... |
nrich
Joined: Nov 17, 2009
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Just got myself a Satio. So far I love:
The looks.
The build quality.
The big 3.5’ gorgeous screen.
The viewing and handling of pictures with the touchscreen.
The walkman UI with album art.
The camera is great.
The nice UI bits that Sony have grafted over the top of S60 in places.
The home screen.
The action of camera slide.
I’ve had many S60 phones, my last phone was an N82 which is still the best phone ever made. I have a young baby so I need a decent camera, plus I’ve been longing for some large screen real estate to view pictures, movies, maps and web on. So the Satio seemed like an ideal replacement with the added bonus of being built on S60 which is a well trodden path for me with excellent multitasking capabilities.
I’ve only ever owned Nokias but their recent products have finally pushed me over the edge, I can’t wait forever. Let’s be honest, what most people really want from a smartphone is an iPhone form factor (large screen), no slide out qwerty (makes phone too big), true multitasking with a decent camera and a xenon flash. That is the Satio! I’d quite like a N900 without qwerty and better camera and xenon.
So far I like the phone a lot, it’s more a case of me getting used to S60v5 (touch) rather than me getting used to the Satio, I’ve only ever used the non-touch versions of S60 so this is all new to me. Having to know when to touch once or twice in the menus take some getting used to but I understand this is a limitation of porting traditional S60 to a touchscreen format.
As much as I’m learning to love the Satio, there are quite a number of issues with the new handset. Hopefully some can be fixed in future firmware versions. Sony, please listen and help make a good phone great!
My phone is unlocked, used in UK on O2 network. Firmware is current latest, 1218-9500_R1BB041, dated 06-10-09, custom version, 1224-3823_R1AB029.
These issues are not in order, but the real big issues that hurt usability I will mark with **, please read on……………………
1. Wi-Fi suffers from drop outs every now and again. Can’t seem to find a cause, just every now and again.
2. ** There is no way to search by name for an MP3 in Media, I have over 1200 songs on the memory card and no other way to find a track except scrolling through the entire list. Unbelievable!
3. I cannot order videos in date order. Only be ordered by filename.
4. When I have a picture attached to a contact and that person calls me, the contact picture appears ok but it is partially obscure by the contact name area.
5. ** Battery life = Not Good! Everyone knows this, not news. Please let the 1350mAH battery rumour be true……
6. When a call is received the vibration starts for about 5 seconds before the ringing starts. This might be a feature or a bug, who knows. I just wish there was a setting to choose.
7. When connecting to my bluetooth handsfree car kit there is no profile I can select for this in ‘Accessories’ menu. So when my phone is on silent in the office, it stays on silent when I get into my car. Other S60 phones had a handsfree profile. Strange this is missing as the Satio has profiles for Headset, Textphone and TV Out. Also the earpiece volume is used as the handsfree volume. This is not the case with other S60 phones.
8. ** To search for a contact is a long winded process. Being sent to a ‘split over two page non-qwerty keyboard’ to start your keypresses is hardly ideal. Why not qwerty or alphanumeric like normal S60 contacts finding? Also no contact link from normal homescreen.
9. No equalizer in Satio Media music player. Why? This is standard in all S60. I think the Satio has suffered in some cases by not using the S60 music player but benefitted in others (better to look at).
10. **Kinetic scrolling is excellent in the Media menus and other areas grafted on by Sony. But no kinetic scrolling in the normal S60 parts of the UI make getting around lists such as contacts very difficult and non-intuitive. Can we not have kinetic scrolling in all menus like N97 V2.0 firmware?
11. My Blueyonder e-mail works fine but for some reason the normal automatic retrieval settings do not work. I cannot get my e-mail checked every 30/60 mins etc, I can only connect manually?
12. Camera is excellent but the settings menu seem hard to change, the on screen settings need a hard push or several pushes to register a touch.
13. ** Screen sensitivity is not great. I know its resistive but sometimes the screen registers the touch but the UI does not react, sometimes it just does not register. Very strange. Sometimes the screen needs several touches or sometimes a really hard touch (I’m not talking about the normal S60 parts of the UI that need 2 touches to first select and then activate).
14. ** I’m not sure if the flash is weak or camera software needs changing but photos taken in low light look dark and hard to view, even at very close flash ranges of 1 metre.
15. Autorotate is bit too eager and trigger happy. The sensitivity angle could be reduced a bit please.
16. If we could have some brightness and contrast controls in video player would be good.
17. Accuweather for S60v5 install and appears to run ok until it tries to access network and then gives some strange error message. Nothing can be resolved by setting changes.
18. No RDS on the radio? Yet I think it was advertised as having RDS.
19. When photos are geotagged, unlike in N series phones there is no option to view on a map. Because no Nokia maps integrated I guess, just Google Maps and Wisepilot.
20. Speaker phone volume is a low from the loudspeaker.
21. Cannot save files that are bluetoothed to me on the memory card. If the file is too big for phone memory (See number 22) then no option to save to memory card. (I think this is an S60 issue on all phones I seem to recall)
22. ** Tiny amount of usable C drive space (50/60Mb) even though I install all apps and save everything to memory card.
23. ** Apparently Satio has 256Mb of RAM but you would not realise it as it struggles to do more than one thing at a time. This should be S60’s strength coupled with all of the Satio RAM. What’s going on?
24. Where’s the Satio Facebook App? Many can be downloaded but Satio is advertised with dedicated Facebook App.
25. ** I have set up the relevant access points in Destinations (Wi-Fi priority 1, network data priority 2). I’ve also set up all of the apps to use the correct destination and I still get asked which destination to use on app start up.
26. ** Predictive text (T9) with the alphanumeric keypad has issues! When trying to enter one letter, say m, n or o by pressing 6 key once, I cannot then toggle between them with the * key like you normally can with predictive text! I have to enter and spell n and o manually! Ridiculous!
27. ** When entering a full stop or comma or symbol after a word when I try to toggle with the * key the word is changed! Ridiculous!
28. ** Sometimes movies/videos give a ‘could not play file’ message when I launch them in Media. If I reboot the phone then they will play ok if I do it first thing without using the phone for anything else. This seems like some memory usage issues.
In general the Satio seems far from optimized in many ways. 256 Mb of RAM is not well used, it seems to get bogged down and tied up doing not very much at all! What the N97 would give for 256Mb of RAM and it would use it well, a lot better than the Satio.
Many of these fixes can be ironed out with firmware updates. I don’t expect Sony’s implementation to be as slick as Nokia’s, Nokia grew up with S60 and matured the OS to where it is today. I like what Sony is doing with S60, taking a good old reliable workhorse and making it look pretty. As long as that prettiness does not detract from the rock solid S60 functionality.
Please help us Sony, the Satio is very close to being an absolute winner.
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Radu_91
Joined: Sep 14, 2008
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From: Romania
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I have a couple of questions for those who have and use the Satio :
1. how long does the battery last ?
2. is the wi-fi signal reception better than in the C905 or N82 ?
3. is the loudspeaker louder than the one on the C905 ?
4. how resistant is the screen to scratches compared to phones like C905 who have scratch resistant screens ?
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eSatIo
Joined: Nov 16, 2009
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On 2009-05-28 21:04:29, tranced wrote:
Get the ultimate multimedia experience with Satio.
Well, too bad that all these features are either broken and does not work or they are completely missing:
Satio
Camera
Send to web
Messaging
Email
Exchange ActiveSync™
Design
Gesture control
S60 5th edition Symbian™ OS
Entertainment
HD and 3D games
Facebook™ application
FM radio with RDS
Video streaming
Location-based services
Turn-by-turn navigation
Since it's out since September it's about time for SE to get off of their corporate @sses and release an update, isn't it?
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jmcomms
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@nrich
Well done for creating that list.. you've listed probably all of my own points and those of others - but nicely done in one single post. If Sony Ericsson could only read one post from this list, it would be your one!
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Tsepz_GP
Joined: Dec 27, 2006
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nrich
To get a S60 phone to store Bluetooth files in the Memory Card you need to go to Messaging -Options -Settings -Other -Memory In Use -set it to Memory Card, maybe a bit different on Satio,but thats how it is on my oldie N81 
As for the Satio not being able to multitask properly and munching up RAM ,sounds like poor optimization on SE's side.
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yelsew_
Joined: Nov 05, 2009
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Well... 
Someone can say me what this article of dailymobile.se is talking about?
http://dailymobile.se/2009/11[....]icsson-satio-720p-hd-hands-on/
A Satio recording videos at 720p? what??!?
Is it new firmware? new revision?
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eSatIo
Joined: Nov 16, 2009
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What are you talking about?
It says "Hands on with Sony Ericsson Satio in 720p HD video."
Where do you see anything related to Satio recording 720p? |
juris15
Joined: Jul 19, 2008
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i think its referring on the hands on video that is recorded on 720p... not on satio's camera |
kinky-chinky
Joined: Jul 02, 2006
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Is it the sister phone of the Satio, the SE Kurara?
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Radu_91
Joined: Sep 14, 2008
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the title means that video of the satio is in 720p hd not that the phone records 720p hd
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Posted: 2009-11-17 12:46
