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xtazy
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Posted: 2005-09-09 00:48
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On 2005-09-08 19:24:44, Phantasm4489 wrote:
SEUS update keeps everything intact. Other upgrades (eg. Davinci flasher) will completely reformat everything.



Unless you move them to the MS and flash it with out the MS inside the phone

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grca73
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Posted: 2005-09-09 01:17
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if saved to ms it stays even after flashing no need to remove card xcept games which have to be reinstalled from a backup in other folder
O2 K750i
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Posted: 2005-09-09 07:40
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On 2005-09-09 01:17:53, grca73 wrote:
if saved to ms it stays even after flashing no need to remove card xcept games which have to be reinstalled from a backup in other folder



Not sure about this because if you backup games to MS then take MS to another phone the games do not appear on the menu - ie the phone still knows something about the game on MS. So - updating the phone may still delete the link to the game on MS.
cg171s
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Posted: 2005-09-09 08:13
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guys, I'm just wondering.. when do you decide to upgrade your firmware..
is it everytime when there is a new firmware or just when your phone feels lagged or when it got some problem..?

grca73
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Posted: 2005-09-10 01:05
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On 2005-09-09 07:40:23, O2 K750i wrote:


Not sure about this because if you backup games to MS then take MS to another phone the games do not appear on the menu - ie the phone still knows something about the game on MS. So - updating the phone may still delete the link to the game on MS.



well not sure what you mean! every game or app i get i first send it to other folder on ms via cable or bluetooth and then install from there
after full fs flash with ms card in theres only default games/apps installed but in other folder jar files are still present. all you have to do is reinstall them to their games apps folders.
the reason that seus doesnt reset your phone is cause it only fully flashes main file the fs seems to be only partially updated 'not full flash like third party' and version numbers changed. flashing just main with davinci also leaves your settings unchanged but why would you do that lol you spending credit anyways you might as well get most for your buck. think seus trying to save on bandwith and updates only differences from old and new fs.
that is why third party is able to give you some extra features by editing original fs from se then encripting it so you cant do the same lol.
main file is tamperproof and has to be flashed completely which im sad to say means that theres never gonna be k750 firmware with plane mode or w800 with multitasking middle button unless se releases it as such which i doubt. upgrades like that are allways reserved for the next phone and they promote it like something new, eh!
O2 K750i
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Posted: 2005-09-10 07:38
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OK - I install as I download rather than download to a folder then install. I'll try your method next download I want.

On that note - anyone seen the original space invaders for K750 yet?
max_wedge
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Posted: 2005-09-10 07:47
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No! Where did you get it?
O2 K750i
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Posted: 2005-09-10 08:03
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On 2005-09-10 07:47:48, max_wedge wrote:
No! Where did you get it?



you mean Space invaders - I haven't and has been my quest since I got the phone.
max_wedge
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Posted: 2005-09-10 08:49
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Yeah, space invaders i meant.

guess what I just found?

http://www.spaceinvaders.de/clones.html (make sure you get the mobile phone versions)
b.brown
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Posted: 2005-09-10 09:04
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what's the difference between main firmware and file system firmware?
O2 K750i
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Posted: 2005-09-10 09:24
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@Max_wedge

well done thanks - I've been looking for ages. Will try to install and post results here.

Installed - excellent - thanks again Max_wedge.

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grca73
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Posted: 2005-09-10 10:08
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On 2005-09-10 09:04:05, b.brown wrote:
what's the difference between main firmware and file system firmware?



main contains drivers main features and design of the gui and bugfixes
it can not be edited, has to be flashed whole intact the way se designed particular version of the firmware


fs contains preinstalled apps, games, themes, languages, and some minor features
can be edited (the bin that comes orriginally from se unencripted) either basically with hexedit, or with fs loader for more options

the whole thing is pretty comparable to your puter in basic terms

pc/phone is just a hardware

main is your os

and fs are any programs you choose to install on os in order to customize it and or improove the look of it or usability of such
Klorin
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Posted: 2005-09-11 05:24
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@grca73
Thanks, good info there!
McLaren
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Posted: 2005-09-11 08:09
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Do you know somethink about new firmware R2A ?
Sirhackalot
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Posted: 2005-09-11 09:09
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On 2005-09-11 08:09:23, McLaren wrote:
Do you know somethink about new firmware R2A ?



Huh? R2A or R1A Am I missing something here R1A was the first firmware created (production fimware) so it's not new at all. If you want to know about R1A read the creator post of this thread. But if your talking about R1N(Unreleased Firmware via SEUS), I dont think anybody here has info on that firmware. But then you mentioned R2A:???: Can anybody tell me about this I confused.

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