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Indiandawg
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Posted: 2005-04-28 20:06
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lemme tell u the fact

90% of people in esato supports SE

go to a nokia thread and argue with them which company is the best u will feel lame if u support SE

i m a big SE fan hate nokia by heart and i always prefer to buy SE
but itz not necessary dat nokia sux? na
nokia does have a very good cell market and these days the models which they r coming out they arnt facing any problems in this cell phone world market competition
T200 -> T68i -> T610 -> K700i -> P910i -> W800i -> P990i -> M600i -> P1-> Nokia E71 -> X1i -> X10 -> Arc S -> Sony Z1 -> Sony Z Ultra -> Sony Z3+ -> iPhone 6 -> iPhone 7 Plus -> iPhone X -> iPhone XS Max
vanquish
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Posted: 2005-04-28 20:20
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I think we should all stop now, we all have correct and clear arguments which are the winning arguments and Yazan24 is being unreasonable.

He is setting his own boundaries, claiming that floppy disks arent removable storage (bollocks), claiming that innovation has to be something brand spanking new and invented (again, bollocks), and claiming Sony Ericsson arent innovative (even more bollocks ). Why say such things when you dont have the evidence to prove it?

How can you survive, as dave_uk rightly says, in a consumer world as a company and manufacturer if you aren't innovative?

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Posted: 2005-04-28 20:47
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Amen
Yazan24
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Posted: 2005-04-28 23:15
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Vanquish do your homework: -

Vanquish Says

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He is setting his own boundaries, claiming that floppy disks arent removable storage (bollocks)



But Ive already said

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You know your being unreasonable by comparing floppy disks to smaller expanadable removable memory modules, theyre not in the same field,



When you find a mobile device, PDA, Phone (not laptops) with a floppy disk, PM me. (That is what is meant by expandable removable memory, although a floppy disk is removable it doesnt expand the laptops memory beyond double its existing capacity like Memory sticks do.)

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claiming that innovation has to be something brand spanking new and invented (again, bollocks),



But Ive already said

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An innovation can also be taking an existing GENERAL product that is innovative in its own field, implementing it in another field.



Incase you didnt notice, existing doesnt mean brand spanking new.

Vanquish Says

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claiming Sony Ericsson arent innovative (even more bollocks ).



But Ive already said

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Sure they provide quality handsets, which have innovative aesthetics, but theyve never introduced a totally new innovative feature.



I said theyre innovative in aesthetics, and in other features, but theyve never introduced a totally new feature, thats what I said, learn to read.


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Why say such things when you dont have the evidence to prove it?



The same could be said about you, and your post, whyd you say all those things, when the evidence provided is against you.

Dont say things when you dont have evidence to support your argument.

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S4k1s
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Posted: 2005-04-28 23:36
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On 2005-04-28 23:15:55, Yazan24 wrote:
Vanquish do your homework: -

When you find a mobile device, PDA, Phone (not laptops) with a floppy disk, PM me. (That is what is meant by expandable removable memory, although a floppy disk is removable it doesnt expand the laptops memory beyond double its existing capacity like Memory sticks do.)
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Dont say things when you dont have evidence to support your argument.



Yazan24 I won't go far away from SE ...
Lets look at the S ... Sony .. they make cameras right ?
The got a Series named Mavica®

Guess What it uses for expandable removable memory

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More choices, more power. The FD Mavica® MVC-FD200 is a 2 megapixel camera that gives you the option of recording your digital photos to a standard floppy disk or Memory Stick® Media1, making the concept of limitless capacity a reality at last. Your photos will be easy to store, easy to save and easy to share.



http://www.sonystyle.com/is-b[....]Cameras_CDMavicaDigitalCameras


[ This Message was edited by: S4k1s on 2005-04-28 22:37 ]
bart
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Posted: 2005-04-28 23:44
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why are you now looking at sony, to try to prove that SE is innovative.
sony is appart from SE. its also easy to say the same about ericsson and its new technology like 3.5 and 4G, bussines solutions and so much more.

guys this is going noway.
SE fans are trying to proof that they are right.
while the old ericsson fans know how it was in the good old days.

there will always be such threads. i myself am a big ericsson fan, and was one of the biggest SE fans. but SE has disapointed me to many times, and so i've decided to undo what i've done. wich means no more SE for anybody i know or see.
but thats just me
With Ericsson and Nokia gone: we must keep their spirits alive and buy JOLLA or YOTA
S4k1s
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Posted: 2005-04-28 23:56
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bart was that for me?
I just pointed out a new product where the 3.5 floppy disks are still used as extended removable memory today.
Yazan24
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Posted: 2005-04-29 00:02
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S4K1S I also said, that they provided more than double internal memory, and newer Mavikas use CDs if Im not mistaken

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[ This Message was edited by: Yazan24 on 2005-04-28 23:02 ]
S4k1s
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Posted: 2005-04-29 00:03
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check the blody link, I'v used it my self

And don't say stuff like "I also said" now ... I gave you a new product and a url .. nothing you can say will change the fact that it exists and is being used and that u said it wasn't

[ This Message was edited by: S4k1s on 2005-04-28 23:05 ]
goldenface
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Posted: 2005-04-29 00:05
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I really find it amazing that someone is actually trying to argue that ANY mobile phone manufacturer isn't innovative, technologically or other wise. I mean innovation is what R & D Departments thrive upon and to look at any small handset like a K600 and imagine the research, imagination, teamwork, design, time and money that went into it, and not call it innovative is frankly outrageous. I have never witnessed anyone argue black is white quite like it?
Yazan24
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Posted: 2005-04-29 00:07
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You've got a point, but I pointed out several times that SE has innovative designers, but havent introduced a totally new feature.

But hey you cant blame them cause theyre new to the scene, and still dont have very steady sales.

Im sure they will invest a lot into R&D and provide us with innovative products once theyve ensured a large amount of marketshare and steady profit.
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SloopJohnB
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Posted: 2005-04-29 00:26
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i believe se doesnt introduce totally new techs on the market like other companys because of market share and strategy. That must be also the reason they usually dont put upgrades of existing techs before any other mobile maker like some companies do. Se is trying to expand their market share and releasing new techs doesnt guarantee that cause other companies ( like nokia) would offer a similar phone for less money cause it has a bigger share than se. Se only releases phones like any other on the market (ex k750i) when it has already guaranteed market for that device (ex k700 for k750). Se cannot go on releasing a bunch of new techs facing the fact of their piece of the market and the fact they can sell u an old tech 3 times before giving u a new one. Usually only companies with majority of the market set the new techs to be sold and thats not se´s case. Ericsson did it but it if had been that much successful ericsson wouldnt have joined forces with sony.
thats what i think....
Yazan24
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Posted: 2005-04-29 01:05
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Very well put.
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Posted: 2005-04-29 01:21
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this threads turning into an argument
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Posted: 2005-04-29 01:26
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Hold you 'horses' cowboys and indians Nokia just sent me a news/letter this morning, showing me the specs of their future releases . . . I was quite surprised to see one model which looks exactly like that of the P900/910i series Unfortunately, I forgot to jot down the said Nokia model ! [addsig]
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