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Linkinpark17UK
Joined: Jan 27, 2002
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The S probably stands for swivel, sorry if this has been posted before. | |
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buster
Joined: Aug 14, 2003
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Once again SE shocks us again!! :-D I love you SE!!
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chungagoring
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On 2004-03-10 14:43:29, blue8300 wrote:
S*** can't be Smartphone.. those are the P***
and those are still the most expensive too 
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what  told me is that the new series mean this:
Kxxx: true dual front phones (so presumably many new K phones are being prepared)
Sxxx: advanced camera features (multimegapixel)
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On 2004-03-10 12:58:30, dimitrivd wrote:
The clubsonyericsson.com website says that it rotates 360° degrees, I think thats not true and it rotates only in one direction (180°)
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i say it rotates 360º degrees because i've used it and it rotates 360º. in comparison with motorola models, sony ericsson has made this possible in order to make it comfortable for the left-handed as well as the right-handed.
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Super G
Joined: Mar 07, 2002
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Dear 701, Knut G (you guys should get married or something)
701, you claim you work in this area, know what you do, what you're talking about etc. Well, I seriously hope they're not paying you much... because you do lack some very basic knowledge obviously: e.g. your enlightened statement about end users ending up paying 3 times more with EDGE than GPRS, needing a separate subscription, etc -surely you have some other thoughts like this you'd like to share with us. To make a simple comparison, you sound like a cook at McDonald's (or Pizza Hut) who claims knowing everything about the whats and hows of the food served in La Tour d'Argent...
Also, check your "reliable" sources rather than gossips. Because EDGE *is* rolled out and activated in Romania... But you might still want to object. Be my guest. Being stubborn is a quality -up to a certain point...
I dont believe EDGE will be the leading technology, nor do I believe WCDMA will be the leading one or CDMA2k. GSM undeniably is the leading one already, serving more than a billion people. But EDGE (EGPRS part) is happening in many countries (GSMA lists only *public* info. Real numbers *are* different) around the world and is a reality in many of them also as a complement to WCDMA or as an alternative to it, and it's going to increase. The main markets are US and Asia, and this likely is the reason why has released only a US version (why not for Asia though?), but they will catch the train eventually. Phones are on a mass market already, networks are ready (and here to challenge what Arun -you should obviously know whom I'm talking about...- was saying a week ago: EDGE phones have been ready *prior* to networks), so all the elements are in place for making EDGE a success. YOu might say: what about services then? Well, even services are available that will benefit from EDGE. RT streaming (Which has been possible with Nokia GPRS phones since 3650 for instance, and that no phones provide -not even the ones announced yesterday), will benefit a lot from EDGE. Sending 2.5 times faster an email, a picture etc as a background task in your phone might not be so obvious to the user, but browsing the web much faster than with GPRS is something you do notice. Also having a higher quality video stream is something you notice, and cant really argue about.
Well anyway...
Maybe I'm not credible to you and I simply don't care. (shortsighted comments like "EDGE is going to be obsolete when 3G goes into effect" are certainly more credible...) But I simply don't like people who insult others "for free", whilst thinking that shouting louder than others make them be more convincing...
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701
Joined: Nov 26, 2002
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From: Romania
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@SuperG: I didn't want to start a flame-war here and his will be my last comment about EDGE as I have made my point in the previous post where i gave u and every1 else the links proving i am right and u r wrong.That's all.I just replied to ur wrong posts.
Then Knut G is right and i still claim that
For ur information (like my last post) , EDGE is NOT active in Romania. Mobifon(Connex) and Cosmorom (2 companies) are not interested in developing EDGE , while Mobilrom (Orange) announced they would roll out the EDGE tech this year but took no further steps in even contacting potential tech providers. I know this, as my previous statement. Then i live here in Romania, while u r someplace else...enough about it.
Something else: comments u read somewhere over the internet about the future of mobile comunications don't count as much as the reality i provided by links.If u want, u can also check the romanian gsm companies' sites and u'll find out for urself what i am claiming here.
Facts count not the gossips or hearsay u post here 
I also read the articles Flyin' posted but a guy here reply before i had the chance making the most objective point.No need for me to reffer to that again.
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andrew99
Joined: Nov 29, 2001
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A few questions if someone with the technical knowledge could help out...
If the s700 has a 1.3mega camera what are the typical jpeg file sizes likely to be at that resolution?
Most network operators have max message sizes for mms of around 100k (to the best of my knowledge - please correct me if I'm wrong). Is this for technical reasons, or just a way making sure MMS is economic (ie the price per message remains substantially higher than the price to transmit)?
I'm just interested if we'll be able to send these large pictures over the air (excluding bluetooth/ir etc). Obviously it wouldn't be hard to scale down the resolution on the handset and send smaller messages if you have to, but will we have to?
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kasei
Joined: Jan 17, 2004
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From: somewhere
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Is possible to change images size?
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masseur
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
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From: Sydney, London
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thanks to Guy89 in this post
S700 live pics at threegmobile.net
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Knut.G.
Joined: Mar 12, 2002
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Posted by Flying Finn
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| Nokia has signed a frame agreement with TeliaSonera for the modernization and upgrade of its existing GSM/GPRS/EDGE Nokia network in the Nordic countries. Deliveries have already begun and the network upgrade will serve approximately eight million TeliaSonera subscribers in Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden. |
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Ok, here we go again. You are quoting Nokia, a supplier of networking equipment, where they say their networking equipment is selling well, and that EDGE is a viable technology. FlyingFinn, you redefine the word gullable.
First of all, this press release mentions, and I quote, "GSM/GPRS/EDGE" network upgrades, which means it covers ALL the technologies, and therefore that the EDGE may only supply one country, well in line with what I said earlier about Finland being the only Telia country to get EDGE for now. And for your information, TeliaSonera does NOT have a network in Norway, so that is at least one thing with the pressrelease that is wrong.
Second, your other release, from a interest organisation for the Telecommunications companies, where it says EDGE is a successfull technology, is equally uninteresting. OF COURSE THEY WILL SAY THIS!
They said it about Wap, about Wap2.0, and about EMS. Each of these technologies were going to rock the world of telecommunications. The customers however, responded with a big yawn.
The FACT: EDGE is about 2.5 times faster than GPRS. Nobody(ie, most of the public) will care about using 10 seconds to send an image instead of 5 seconds. They will however, be more interested in the added functionality of UMTS. So you can come back and troll some more when Nokia has a proper UMTS handset released.
FlyingFinn and SuperG's half assed attempts at promoting an uninteresting technology as the downfall of SE is amusing at best. You should in fact applaud SE, because they deliver what the public wants, something Nokia used to be the master of, but has failed miserably with the least few years.
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Superluminova
Joined: Feb 24, 2002
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Is it me or does the keypad let the phone a down a bit, style wise it looks fantastic closed but when its opened up it seem's to me to lose some of that style?
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djsaad1
Joined: Nov 25, 2003
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sorry i am to lazy to read every page in this discusion so i am sorry if this was asked before. Does the s700 have duo pro support or just duo. I havnt seen an article yet that has mentioned duo pro but I would find it pretty dumb if sony doesnt support their own new technology. |
masseur
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
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everything so far (press release, product page) only says DUO, not DUO PRO.
I'd find that hard to believe if it was true though, especially given the time frame of this phone
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Knut.G.
Joined: Mar 12, 2002
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Posted by SuperG
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| To make a simple comparison, you sound like a cook at McDonald's (or Pizza Hut) who claims knowing everything about the whats and hows of the food served in La Tour d'Argent... |
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So what do YOU do for a living? Why are you the enlightened messenger in all things mobile related?
All I see from you are vague technical comments and avoiding answering direct questions. You seem to have no better grasp of the technical terms and market implications. Like this one...
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Yes, it IS more credible. Do you even understand what EDGE is? EDGE is nothing new, The infrastructure suppliers has had this in the plans for 2-3 years, and it is intended as a stop gap between 2G and 3G. Problem is, nobody wants it. Those who do, will switch over to UMTS and its higher transfer speeds immediately as soon as it becomes available.
And, you have been proven wrong by listing many of the countries that are supposedly EDGE ready, as I have told you when it comes to Norway and Sweden, and others have covered other countries. I still stand by my prediction, that EDGE will slowly melt away as UMTS gets more and more available. Just like, Wap1.0, WAP2.0 and EMS. Yes they still exist, but they did not revolutionize the industry as they was supposed to, same goes for EDGE.
-Knut
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shug
Joined: Nov 05, 2003
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From: Sweden
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Why couldn't they put a radio in this as well. Then my mind would be made up. |
Super G
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@701: About Orange Romania and EDGE and you saying that they took no further steps in contacting tech providers, I recommend you check from Alcatel for a start...
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