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mario2004 Joined: Sep 16, 2006 Posts: > 500 From: South Africa PM, WWW
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@C96... Yeah bud, I think along the exactly same line. After huge cuts all over, it looks like the 'fall' has been softened a lot. Now that SE has a s60 cell in the making, I would like to see NO FALL at all ! Eldar has his obvious nutty moments but certainly, at least some of his comments are ok. I remember, SE used to be a example in quality, unfortunately, after many 'quiet' staff cuts, SE has a reputation of building cell's which even the chinese don't want to use They better don't f***k-up their only s60 model in the works. If you think I am anti SE now, you haven't seen anything yet
'Better govern our selfs the wrong way, then be governed by 'others' the right way.' - Robert Mugabe - Freedom fighter comarade, peoples hero and President of Zimbabwe. |
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Residentevil Joined: Feb 29, 2004 Posts: > 500 From: Raccoon City, USA PM, WWW
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I don't think he knows what the heck he is talking about.
Tough times don't last, tough people do! Free Tibet |
synn Joined: Feb 09, 2009 Posts: > 500 PM |
On 2009-06-14 21:42:30, mario2004 wrote:
Chaps,you can bash Eldar as much as you like. The fact of the matter remains: SE is basically on 'life support'. Ericsson is not interested anymore and Sony are having their own troubles ! In a few weeks, SE will release the 2Q financial results and take it from me: that's ways more important than what Eldar says. Actually is even more important then the Aino's release date ! Forget about Nokia and s60 for now. You chaps are like the Titanic passagers: while the ship is sinking you are arguing which boat is fastest in the world at that time  To talk about Nokia/s60 and SE in the same sentence, is like talking about a sick and skinny donkey pulling a cart and a f1 car powered by mercedes benz. For God's sake, if you really want to help, give the donkey some watter and forget about the f1 car for now.
Anyone who has a dozen odd brain cells to spare knows all about SE's situation. This thread is not about that. This is about the blatant lies Eldar is spreading in an attempt to tarnish SE. Go back a couple of pages and see some examples listed.
The donkey is in charge of people who know how to do business better than you, me and Eldar combined (And they're taking the right steps now). It'll survive. |
MWEB Joined: Feb 13, 2005 Posts: > 500 From: somewhere nicer than you PM |
SE's decline speaks for itself simply by observing its downward spiral in terms of market position and sales figures, funny how people try and deflect from the basic stats by launching petty, childish attacks on individuals, though with some people in this thread that is all they ever post!!
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goldenface Joined: Dec 17, 2003 Posts: > 500 From: Liverpool City Centre PM |
Well SE doesn't expect the market to recover till the final quarter anyway (I think read somewhere that the global handset market fell 10% in the 1st quarter alone) so its still going to be a tough year regardless of what anyone bemoans.
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synn Joined: Feb 09, 2009 Posts: > 500 PM |
On 2009-06-15 16:49:02, MWEB wrote:
SE's decline speaks for itself simply by observing its downward spiral in terms of market position and sales figures, funny how people try and deflect from the basic stats by launching petty, childish attacks on individuals, though with some people in this thread that is all they ever post!!
SE's decline is no excuse for a self proclaimed expert journalist to post blatant lies about them (For god's sake, READ the previous posts).
Why don't you run along and rule over your dictatorship where people aren't allowed to post their opinions? |
MWEB Joined: Feb 13, 2005 Posts: > 500 From: somewhere nicer than you PM |
On 2009-06-15 16:57:43, synn wrote:
On 2009-06-15 16:49:02, MWEB wrote:
SE's decline speaks for itself simply by observing its downward spiral in terms of market position and sales figures, funny how people try and deflect from the basic stats by launching petty, childish attacks on individuals, though with some people in this thread that is all they ever post!!
SE's decline is no excuse for a self proclaimed expert journalist to post blatant lies about them (For god's sake, READ the previous posts).
Why don't you run along and rule over your dictatorship where people aren't allowed to post their opinions?
Just so everyone on here can avail themselves of the facts, YOU were banned FOUR times for posting foul mouthed, obnoxious personal attacks on various staff and other members, some people need to be shut up so as the rest of decent, civilised contributors can have a healthy debate free of the kind of comments you are famous for.
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se_dude Joined: Nov 07, 2007 Posts: > 500 PM |
Err, no offense, but i am yet to see a forum like M-r where mods have brand preferences. Brightspark goes all BS about SE and uses all his migh to dissuade members to buy SE phones and keeps posting shit about SE in all the threads that he gets his hands on. It is highly pro-nokia and any adverse comment against nokia can earn you a ban. Supporting SE there is a crime and it is not easy for members who like SE to see all the threads being hijacked by mods who need to shed their anger on SE. A phone right after its announcement is bombarded with negative comments which does not happen to the filthiest of handsets from other manufacturers. Just wanted t bring it to your notice. You are more than welcome to deny it on the face. |
synn Joined: Feb 09, 2009 Posts: > 500 PM |
On 2009-06-15 17:15:58, MWEB wrote:
Just so everyone on here can avail themselves of the facts, YOU were banned FOUR times for posting foul mouthed, obnoxious personal attacks on various staff and other members, some people need to be shut up so as the rest of decent, civilised contributors can have a healthy debate free of the kind of comments you are famous for.
Just so everyone on here can avail themselves of the facts, I was banned one time for proving moderator Chlettn wrong in a Nokia announcements thread, one time for calling moderator Brightspark out on his blatant hatred for SE, one time because I dared discuss Symbian Foundation OS in the SE Idou thread (For which me and SE dude were banned but Dogmann walked scot-free), and one time for calling moderator A2K24 out on his immaturity and apparent inability to conduct himself worthy of a moderator spot.
Seriously webster, why are you tailing me here? Don't you have anything better to do now that you gagged me where you can push buttons and make things happen? Hint: i'm not the only one who thinks Eldar is off his rockers, my friend. |
MWEB Joined: Feb 13, 2005 Posts: > 500 From: somewhere nicer than you PM |
SE_dude is a frequently posting member on M-R, i dont agree with his viewpoint, and were not likely to be sending each other Xmas cards, but at least he manages to get his views across without the bile, venom and spite that oozes in abundance from certain other members.
My fellow Admin (Saliquincer) is the biggest SE fan you will ever meet, but that fact is conveniently ignored by some people
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tranced Joined: Jan 19, 2006 Posts: > 500 From: Santo Domingo, wonDeRland PM |
this has turned into a war not about Eldar but forums. this is not the intetion it was with.
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