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Raven
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Posted: 2002-12-05 12:06
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@T68iFan

Very nice screensaver dude!
carpe noctem
Black Cat
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Posted: 2002-12-05 12:14
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$5 a month would be amazing value for what we get, never mind $1. make it pay laffen.
they don't make them like they used to
Dj Boyi
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Posted: 2002-12-05 12:22
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I agree too,cus the actual info and help that we all get is free is'nt it,so 1$ or 1£ in UK a month is well worth it.

I spend at least 2 hours a day here including on my phone,what would we do without ESATO,got to be the best info site for mobiles.

Also stop putting pics on the site and just use hyperlinks.
If nobody wants it.. put it on eBay.
Eamonn
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Posted: 2002-12-05 12:22
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if it is made into a pay site, all the users under 18 will not be able to access it.
NokiaKilla
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Posted: 2002-12-05 12:35
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Agree with $1 per month. With the huge library inside ESATO, no other forum can compare.
gazobee
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Posted: 2002-12-05 12:40
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Plus $45/day equates to about £1350/month.

So we need less than 15% of registered users to make it pay.

As for those under 18, hasn't mummy or daddy got a credit card?
How did you get the net access in the first place?
Got your own phone line have you?

K
Back in love with the Big O again!
Eamonn
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Posted: 2002-12-05 12:42
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well I see your point but some parents might be tight bout money.
Black Cat
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Posted: 2002-12-05 12:42
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if it was only a couple of bucks/month, it wouldn't be too much to pay up front. would help laffens cashflow as well. maybe under 18s could send money directly to laffen
they don't make them like they used to
Wuz
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Posted: 2002-12-05 12:48
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This is not intended at being negative... I for one, would pay up to $5 a month for Esato.

BUT you must undertand that the logistics of a pay-per-view site are anything but straight forward. Quite apart from the mechanics of instigating changes to the initial set-up, you must put management processes in place to deal with incoming subscriptions, lapsed membership, direct debit etc...
You must have a budget for advertising for new members as otherwise all you are receiving money from is an ever dwindling pool of regulars. You must develop standards of performance and accept that there is now an expectation on you to deliver... unlike before.

In other words, you need a proper buiness model and time out to make it work. You must also accept, that like it or not, Esato as a fee paying site would have be a different entity to the one you enjoy now.

Its a solution, so I can't belittle it... but I much prefer a monthly raffle of a top class phone (donated by SE's PR department) as a way forward initially.
Wuz
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Posted: 2002-12-05 12:51
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... that said, I would be prepared to help Laffen, should you decide to go the membership way.

(-I own several companies: One of which specialises in advising companies on general strategy management; the other helps create affinity partnerships between non-competing organizations in unrelated sectors).

evoke
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Posted: 2002-12-05 12:52
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Putting pics on the forum via html tags does not take up any capacity.

This post was posted from a T68i

Raven
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Posted: 2002-12-05 12:53
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Quote:

On 2002-12-05 12:48, Wuz wrote:
I much prefer a monthly raffle of a top class phone (donated by SE's PR department) as a way forward initially.



Again I must agree with you!
carpe noctem
largepig
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Joined: Nov 18, 2002
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Posted: 2002-12-05 13:00
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Thank you for contacting Sony Ericsson.

Regarding your enquiry concerning the Esato website, Sony Ericsson would be
unable to comment upon the alleged issue with an independent website.

Please contact us again if we can be of further assistance and visit our
website at www.sonyericsson.com for more information and support on our
products.

Best regards,

___________

I don't think they got the right idea? I thought my mail was quite clear!
nwmq1
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Joined: Dec 28, 2001
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Posted: 2002-12-05 13:01
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Laffen>

Check this site out:

http://www.doubleclick.com

check with them and see how much they are willing to pay

you've got a contact for here:

http://www.doubleclick.com:80/us/product/online/dfp/default.asp?function=1050&asp_object_1=&formID=general_dfp

checked your stats and saw that you had about 500-600 thousand unique per month... hopefully they'll that's enough to cover the expenses, at least you can try...

[ This Message was edited by: nwmq1 on 2002-12-05 12:28 ]
adamizer
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Posted: 2002-12-05 13:04
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Money in the mail should be there 2morrow or monday. $25 to laffen. And $15 to the bank ...man it stung. Must be a better way. And se sent me 2 confirme e-mail nothing else.

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