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KingBooker5
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Posted: 2007-05-25 20:34
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sapporo, I wish you worked for SE and told them what you just said! Maybe we could get some high ends on the market!
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Posted: 2007-05-25 20:35
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If SE supported Macs better, would that lessen your bias towards Nokia?.
KingBooker5
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Posted: 2007-05-25 20:39
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bias? Most of this thread is supporting nokia!
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Posted: 2007-05-25 20:44
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On 2007-05-25 20:34:35, KingBooker5 wrote:
sapporo, I wish you worked for SE and told them what you just said! Maybe we could get some high ends on the market!


Well considering I did approach SE for a volume purchase of about 500 P990's and 500 M600i's for the US military and their response was "SE has no plans to support Apple Macintosh computers now nor in the future. Please refer to Apple for further information."

This sealed the deal for me. The US military has finally decided to spread the wealth as it were and pick from multiple venders, from computers (only using Dell), and phones (only using Nokia's), and as a consultant I decided to buy phones from a manufacture that I was using, i.e. SE. After SE said no support for Mac's, and a simply awful phone (M600i), I decided that enough is enough and switched to Nokia.
*edited on a Mac of course. Mac: There is no substitute*

N82(YES), iPhone 3G, Shure es530, Nikon D300, more stuff. No more SE stuff, why am I still here?
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Posted: 2007-05-25 20:45
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On 2007-05-25 20:39:03, KingBooker5 wrote:
bias? Most of this thread is supporting nokia!

yeah, my comment was aimed at sapporobaby, lots of Nokia bias in here i agree
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Posted: 2007-05-25 20:46
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On 2007-05-25 20:35:51, mweb6161 wrote:
If SE supported Macs better, would that lessen your bias towards Nokia?.



How many times do I have to say this? I only chose Nokia because SE was not meeting my needs and told me that they won't. Isn't that pretty clear? SE does not support Mac's. Much of the support you see is third party or from Apple. SE has others doing their work.

As for being biased, I am biased towards what works for me. Bottom line.

You keep on and on and on with this even after I have made it clear why I changed from SE to Nokia. Do you need me to do it again for you?
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Posted: 2007-05-25 20:50
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On 2007-05-25 20:39:03, KingBooker5 wrote:
bias? Most of this thread is supporting nokia!


I think much of this thread is not necessarily biased towards Nokia but frustration at SE for a lack of innovation and just repackaging of its existing models. Yes there are some that are nice, the w880i ( think this one. the super slim silver model) that I would consider purchasing, but for the most part, after the k800i nothing really innovating and inspiring has come out.

But as I say again, this is all subjective.
*edited on a Mac of course. Mac: There is no substitute*

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Posted: 2007-05-25 21:07
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most ridiculous thread i ever read...............

SonyEricsson makes for sure best phones of all brands. (robust, beautiful and quality........and so on)







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Posted: 2007-05-25 21:09
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On 2007-05-25 21:07:03, plankgatan wrote:
most ridiculous thread i ever read...............

SonyEricsson makes for sure best phones av all brands. (robust, beautiful and quality........and so on)


[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-05-25 20:08 ]

i am not even going to bother argue with you, but still, can you atleast support your statement?
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Posted: 2007-05-25 21:17
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On 2007-05-25 20:50:34, sapporobaby wrote:

On 2007-05-25 20:39:03, KingBooker5 wrote:
bias? Most of this thread is supporting nokia!


I think much of this thread is not necessarily biased towards Nokia but frustration at SE for a lack of innovation and just repackaging of its existing models. Yes there are some that are nice, the w880i ( think this one. the super slim silver model) that I would consider purchasing, but for the most part, after the k800i nothing really innovating and inspiring has come out.

But as I say again, this is all subjective.


Quite agree with that, subjective for sure, don't mind me sapporobaby, i spend 16 hours per day on the lookout for unsubstantiated fanboy material elsewhere, it's my job, lot's of difference between having a brand preferance (like you) and being a fanboy. .
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Posted: 2007-05-25 21:21
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Quite agree with that, subjective for sure, don't mind me sapporobaby, i spend 16 hours per day on the lookout for unsubstantiated fanboy material elsewhere, it's my job, lot's of difference between having a brand preferance (like you) and being a fanboy. .



You're getting close but still no cigar. I would still have my M600i if it worked. If SE would support it on a Mac. Nokia is not my brand preference. It is the only brand that happens to be meeting my needs with innovative, high quality products. If SE produces something of interest, I will naturally give them a look.

Example. I had an N800. It was a disaster. Nokia is not really marketing it and positioning it well thus causing confusion about its usage. To the Linux, and developer community, the N800 is the perfect device, but for those that do not have the time nor desire to spend the effort to learn Linux, the N800 could be a nightmare.
*edited on a Mac of course. Mac: There is no substitute*

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Posted: 2007-05-25 21:31
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On 2007-05-25 20:45:05, mweb6161 wrote:

On 2007-05-25 20:39:03, KingBooker5 wrote:
bias? Most of this thread is supporting nokia!

yeah, my comment was aimed at sapporobaby, lots of Nokia bias in here i agree

...well, it IS a thread about SE's shortcomings - so, obviously it will feature the opinions of people frustrated with SE's "recent" offerings"! Interestingly, some of the more unqualified bias is served up by the faith-based SE-defenders, who fail to explain why exactly SE "rules"!? I would run the 10 miles to the nearest phone shop, if SE where to come up with a suitable phone tomorrow! They won't...neither will moto***a.... maybe x-mas? [addsig]
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Posted: 2007-05-25 21:33
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QVGA, tell me one brand who makes phones with better camera (k8XXi), better sound (w8XXi).......better quality.........better design....?





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Posted: 2007-05-25 21:37
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On 2007-05-25 21:33:19, plankgatan wrote:
QVGA, tell me one brand who makes phones with better camera (k8xxi), better sound (w8XXi).......better quality.........better design....?


[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-05-25 20:35 ]

Better quality - N93
Better sound - all N series
Better design - millions of phones from different manufacturers.

you tell me one SE phone with VGA video recording, Wifi g, 16million screen, GPS
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Posted: 2007-05-25 21:40
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@plankgatan


Well done the most ridiculous couple of statements in any thread the first well may be your opinion to which you are entitled but the second is simply not supported by the facts unfortunately for all of us.


"most ridiculous thread i ever read...............

SonyEricsson makes for sure best phones of all brands. (robust, beautiful and quality........and so on)"

If only what you said would be true none of us would have to bother with all these threads questioning what has happened to SE.


@sapporobaby

Well in a complete change SE is now saying that their new devices will be supported both by Windows Vista and Apple with the release of a new PC Suite on 22nd June 2007.

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