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Ambivalent_
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Posted: 2013-08-21 13:44
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On 2013-08-21 12:04:05, Ambroos wrote:
I have a hands-on with Honami (and the other new products that will be announced) on 11 September at the launch event in Belgium ^^


Please post some impressions about Honami. Performance, screen, build quality, design, practicality compared to zu and z etc...

Also, can you confirm Z1 as the final name?
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Posted: 2013-08-21 13:44
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On 2013-08-21 12:50:42, razec wrote:
so honami is "massive"

while ZU is larger by volume


I prefer it "massive"... beefier and more solid are all positive points to me!
Obviously not if it is so heavy that I need to go to the Gym to carry it around during the day
The weight gives me the feeling of a more Reliable and Resistant unit! , even the thickness is more than welcome till 1cm (not more)... if it is too thin it scares me normally, I'd be always afraid of breaking it!!!

-15 days to the Announcement (already with my fingers crossed)
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Posted: 2013-08-21 13:45
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I can wait till Ambroos gets his hands on Honami. and to Ambroos, if possible could you do screen comparison with your Z or any AMOLED smartphones you own as well as some ISO100 sample pictures?

@Crownedakuma I agree, if it was a laptop I'd really moan over the weight, but this is just a smartphone anyway and 180grams wouldn't break your limbs so I always prefer heavy smartphones as it gives us impression on how jampacked it is deep within
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Posted: 2013-08-21 14:14
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the question is why this "old" prototype of Honami keep on appearing?
huiyi confirm this is an old prototype.. so what is the difference with the newer one?
can someone else confirm this? thanks..
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Posted: 2013-08-21 14:14
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Karma seriously chasing on me last year I was so bad mouth how heavyweight Nokia Lumia 920 at that time.

I hope it won't suffer same fate as Lumia 920.
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Ambroos
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Posted: 2013-08-21 14:24
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On 2013-08-21 13:45:42, razec wrote:
I can wait till Ambroos gets his hands on Honami. and to Ambroos, if possible could you do screen comparison with your Z or any AMOLED smartphones you own as well as some ISO100 sample pictures?

@Crownedakuma I agree, if it was a laptop I'd really moan over the weight, but this is just a smartphone anyway and 180grams wouldn't break your limbs so I always prefer heavy smartphones as it gives us impression on how jampacked it is deep within
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2013-08-21 12:48 ]



Not sure if the ISO can be set manually, if it can I'll take some. As I said I'm taking my NEX-5R and have a good low-light lens, so I can shoot some videos showing off the differences between the Z and Honami. Since I only own Sony electronics I don't have any AMOLED phones. I do have an OLED Walkman (X-series), but that is some old tech so not worth comparing to.

Don't know what the final name is yet, but I don't expect it to be i1, it doesn't make sense. Z1 doesn't make much sense either IMO but it's possible.
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Posted: 2013-08-21 14:37
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The X series may be old but it is a fine piece of hardware with excellent sound quality and physical controls for playback on touchscreen device. Although the wifi was useless, mine served me a good 2 years before the headphones broke.

I thought the honami camera would allow users to select iso and what not, ie manual mode?
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Posted: 2013-08-21 14:46
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You can set manual ISO even in Xperia S/P etc
Ambroos
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Posted: 2013-08-21 16:17
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On 2013-08-21 14:46:52, randomuser wrote:
You can set manual ISO even in Xperia S/P etc


Hah, right, never used. I'm not a big phone cam user, never satisfied with the quality since I've always had a DSLR.
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Posted: 2013-08-21 17:56
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On 2013-08-21 16:17:29, Ambroos wrote:

On 2013-08-21 14:46:52, randomuser wrote:
You can set manual ISO even in Xperia S/P etc


Hah, right, never used. I'm not a big phone cam user, never satisfied with the quality since I've always had a DSLR.



just a crazy thought. can you submerge Honami in water and try to use it for a while?
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Posted: 2013-08-21 18:34
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Honami will weights around 190g

And:
The metal power button is so much smaller than the one on Z and the phone is a bit heavy. Almost same weight as Z ultra... 5" and almost same weight as Z Ultra (which is thinner), I guess it's the battery. Yes it's thicker, similar to Z.

It's brighter and more white than Z/V. And also X-Reality colors are not as saturated as Bravia Engine 2. Z Ultra display is better with richer colors and contrast although both are using the same screen. I just did a comparison side by side with Z Ultra. Z Ultra is much better whereas Honami is whiter/brighter. But take it with a grain of salt as I think the firmware in Honami is old.

Tried the camera, nothing to be wow about seriously. There's this bo liao app where you can take AR effect like a 3D dinosaur/fairies in the backdrop lol

Source:http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/sony-user-group-formerly-sony-ericsson-135/alleged-specs-sony-honami-togari-flagships-leak-4194142-17.html
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Posted: 2013-08-21 18:47
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On 2013-08-21 18:34:51, BenLing wrote:
Honami will weights around 190g

And:
The metal power button is so much smaller than the one on Z and the phone is a bit heavy. Almost same weight as Z ultra... 5" and almost same weight as Z Ultra (which is thinner), I guess it's the battery. Yes it's thicker, similar to Z.

It's brighter and more white than Z/V. And also X-Reality colors are not as saturated as Bravia Engine 2. Z Ultra display is better with richer colors and contrast although both are using the same screen. I just did a comparison side by side with Z Ultra. Z Ultra is much better whereas Honami is whiter/brighter. But take it with a grain of salt as I think the firmware in Honami is old.

Tried the camera, nothing to be wow about seriously. There's this bo liao app where you can take AR effect like a 3D dinosaur/fairies in the backdrop lol

Source:http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/sony-user-group-formerly-sony-ericsson-135/alleged-specs-sony-honami-togari-flagships-leak-4194142-17.html


PA PICKED UP LOL

http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]ra-chassis-and-display_id46620


IS THIS GUY FOR REAL ???? 190g WTF??? seriously
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Posted: 2013-08-21 18:57
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On 2013-08-21 11:58:31, razec wrote:
bottomline is that Megapixel race would make more sense if it's used properly. like in photography. if the sensor increases its pixel count while at the same time improving noise suppression without adverse effects on the image output, I have no problem with it. in fact I've been dreaming of a gigapixel camera since last year


The problem isn't the megapixel count increase, but rather the fact that they keep increasing it without correspondingly increasing the sensor size.

That's why they made such a big deal out of BSI, which allows you to dip below 1.4 microns, which then allows you to use the same tiny sensor, but advertise the larger mpix count as an "advantage" over the previous version.

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Posted: 2013-08-21 19:01
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I would have preferred a 12 or 16MP sensor from sony, 20 is overkill and I wouldn't even go for 20 on my APS-C sensor, 16 is plenty for me.
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Posted: 2013-08-21 20:18
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On 2013-08-21 19:01:13, ascariss wrote:
I would have preferred a 12 or 16MP sensor from sony, 20 is overkill and I wouldn't even go for 20 on my APS-C sensor, 16 is plenty for me.


its not an overkill if they are using the pixels in an intelligent way.. An oversampled 5-6mpix image should look pretty good if the algorithm is effective.

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