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miromiromi
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http://www.cultofandroid.com/[....]-photos-camera-mod/#more-64239
Xperia Z2 takes even better photos with this camera mod
The camera mod improves the image quality as well as video recording from the back and the front cameras. The most notable feature of this mod though is the ability to take pictures in 20MP (4:3) and 15MP (16:9) resolution whilst using the Super Auto mode, which is limited to 8MP by default from Sony.
would anyone bother trying?
sample shots posted on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2742568&page=3
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Gitaroo
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those samples are not in full res, hard to tell. Plus you can take 20MP auto photo with the google camera app anyway. Its focus seems to work faster too. |
xdomino996
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Does Sony is going to improve the stability of the camera (overheating)?
@janne_145, what have you done with your Xperia Z2? 
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tranced
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Holy Cow!!! Sorry to see it happened 
On 2014-06-07 21:26:39, janne_145 wrote:
 R.I.P
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randomuser
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So people here were bashing GSMArena and claiming DXOMark knows much better than GSMArena when they rated Z2 as best mobile camera.
Now the S5 review is in and it now ranks at No.1 
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobile[....]der-in-DxOMark-Mobile-rankings
In photos Z2 scores 81 whereas S5 scores 80. In videos S5 scores 79 and Z2 73.
Combined average of photos and videos
S5 - 79.5
Z2 - 77
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2014-06-13 08:59 ] |
AbhiD999
Joined: Oct 28, 2012
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On 2014-06-13 09:52:46, randomuser wrote:
So people here were bashing GSMArena and claiming DXOMark knows much better than GSMArena when they rated Z2 as best mobile camera.
Now the S5 review is in and it now ranks at No.1
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobile[....]der-in-DxOMark-Mobile-rankings
In photos Z2 scores 81 whereas S5 scores 80. In videos S5 scores 79 and Z2 73.
Combined average of photos and videos
S5 - 79.5
Z2 - 77
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2014-06-13 08:59 ]
Lol i still believe dxomark! And look at scores in the pic above. It's 79 for both.
Most interesting part is that Z2 is still ahead of s5 in still photography!!!
Now gsmarena can suck it's own comparison !   |
miromiromi
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So people here were bashing GSMArena and claiming DXOMark knows much better than GSMArena when they rated Z2 as best mobile camera.
Now the S5 review is in and it now ranks at No.1
argument invalid.
dxomark ranks the z2 camera marginally higher (still higher) than s5. 81 vs 80.
also, they don't do final scores in the way you arrived at your average rating. still photography has more weight for them.
if there were any here who assailed gsmarena's comparisons, it was on the still imaging capabilities so your argument does not make sense since dxomark still ranks z2 higher when it comes to still photography.
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AbhiD999
Joined: Oct 28, 2012
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On 2014-06-13 10:54:22, miromiromi wrote:
looks like the s5 thread will be busy in the next few days ... nokia fannies engage!
haha
if dxomark has those grades for the s5 camera, there should be no reason for the note 4 to use a sony sensor (as rumored). looks like samsung's own sensor is just as good as sony's. they can now compete against sony in the mobile camera sensors market.
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2014-06-13 10:03 ]
All the previous Samsung flagships have been beating Sony in camera department. This is the 1st time when they stand equal to Sony's ! This obviously proves that samsung's own made sensor is a Step Backwards .
That's why they going for Sony made in note 4. And note 4 in my opinion will beat Sony's z2/z3 by a huge margin in cam.
Sony sensors are still miles better than any Samsung out there.
Problem lies with optics and software processing. |
Tsepz_GP
Joined: Dec 27, 2006
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From: Johannesburg, South Africa
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On 2014-06-13 09:52:46, randomuser wrote:
So people here were bashing GSMArena and claiming DXOMark knows much better than GSMArena when they rated Z2 as best mobile camera.
Now the S5 review is in and it now ranks at No.1
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobile[....]der-in-DxOMark-Mobile-rankings
In photos Z2 scores 81 whereas S5 scores 80. In videos S5 scores 79 and Z2 73.
Combined average of photos and videos
S5 - 79.5
Z2 - 77
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2014-06-13 08:59 ]
DxO are paid by Samsung now I guess, LMAO!
On 2014-06-13 11:17:57, AbhiD999 wrote:
On 2014-06-13 10:54:22, miromiromi wrote:
looks like the s5 thread will be busy in the next few days ... nokia fannies engage!
haha
if dxomark has those grades for the s5 camera, there should be no reason for the note 4 to use a sony sensor (as rumored). looks like samsung's own sensor is just as good as sony's. they can now compete against sony in the mobile camera sensors market.
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2014-06-13 10:03 ]
All the previous Samsung flagships have been beating Sony in camera department. This is the 1st time when they stand equal to Sony's ! This obviously proves that samsung's own made sensor is a Step Backwards .
That's why they going for Sony made in note 4. And note 4 in my opinion will beat Sony's z2/z3 by a huge margin in cam.
Sony sensors are still miles better than any Samsung out there.
Problem lies with optics and software processing.
No, it's not a step backward, considering this is Samsungs 1st go at a mobile sensor and the fact that it is a SMALLER sensor, this is incredible, they have equalled Sony, the King of sensors at their 1st go, that is an embarrassment to Sony and a huge win for Samsung in many ways as it shows they are just as capable if not more, their smaller sensor has managed to keep up with Sony's much larger one, now I hope Samsung will drop Sony when it comes to the sensors in their flagships, as in terms of margins it makes better sense to just use their own in-house sensor, I hope the Note 4 comes with a 16MP ISOCELL with OIS, that will be a huge win for Samsung.
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AbhiD999
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On 2014-06-13 11:52:22, Tsepz_GP wrote:
On 2014-06-13 09:52:46, randomuser wrote:
So people here were bashing GSMArena and claiming DXOMark knows much better than GSMArena when they rated Z2 as best mobile camera.
Now the S5 review is in and it now ranks at No.1
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobile[....]der-in-DxOMark-Mobile-rankings
In photos Z2 scores 81 whereas S5 scores 80. In videos S5 scores 79 and Z2 73.
Combined average of photos and videos
S5 - 79.5
Z2 - 77
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2014-06-13 08:59 ]
DxO are paid by Samsung now I guess, LMAO!
On 2014-06-13 11:17:57, AbhiD999 wrote:
On 2014-06-13 10:54:22, miromiromi wrote:
looks like the s5 thread will be busy in the next few days ... nokia fannies engage!
haha
if dxomark has those grades for the s5 camera, there should be no reason for the note 4 to use a sony sensor (as rumored). looks like samsung's own sensor is just as good as sony's. they can now compete against sony in the mobile camera sensors market.
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2014-06-13 10:03 ]
All the previous Samsung flagships have been beating Sony in camera department. This is the 1st time when they stand equal to Sony's ! This obviously proves that samsung's own made sensor is a Step Backwards .
That's why they going for Sony made in note 4. And note 4 in my opinion will beat Sony's z2/z3 by a huge margin in cam.
Sony sensors are still miles better than any Samsung out there.
Problem lies with optics and software processing.
No, it's not a step backward, considering this is Samsungs 1st go at a mobile sensor and the fact that it is a SMALLER sensor, this is incredible, they have equalled Sony, the King of sensors at their 1st go, that is an embarrassment to Sony and a huge win for Samsung in many ways as it shows they are just as capable if not more, their smaller sensor has managed to keep up with Sony's much larger one, now I hope Samsung will drop Sony when it comes to the sensors in their flagships, as in terms of margins it makes better sense to just use their own in-house sensor, I hope the Note 4 comes with a 16MP ISOCELL with OIS, that will be a huge win for Samsung.
Samsung was forced to make it's own sensor because Sony did not source it's 20mpx sensor to anyone else. Samsung had to update the megapixel numbers of it's cam as it was stuck at 13mpx from two generations.
If samsung's sensor is so good i wonder why doesn't such awesomeness show up in their dedicated camera lineup !
Just compare s5 with QX10(same 1/2.3" sensor as z2) and s5's cam will learn it's actual place.
There is a reason why Samsung decided to go with Sony sensor in Galaxy Camera 2!
There is a reason why Samsung is switching back to Sony sensor in Note 4!
And there is a reason why you aren't samsung's ceo and take decisions.
The problem with Sony xperia series is lens and software processing. Not the sensor. It's still the best ! |
itsjustJOH
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Huh, I remember those Samsung and Nokia fanboys trashing this thread saying how sh*t DxOMark is for rating Z2 above 808.
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Tsepz_GP
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From: Johannesburg, South Africa
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On 2014-06-13 12:29:41, AbhiD999 wrote:
On 2014-06-13 11:52:22, Tsepz_GP wrote:
On 2014-06-13 09:52:46, randomuser wrote:
So people here were bashing GSMArena and claiming DXOMark knows much better than GSMArena when they rated Z2 as best mobile camera.
Now the S5 review is in and it now ranks at No.1
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobile[....]der-in-DxOMark-Mobile-rankings
In photos Z2 scores 81 whereas S5 scores 80. In videos S5 scores 79 and Z2 73.
Combined average of photos and videos
S5 - 79.5
Z2 - 77
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2014-06-13 08:59 ]
DxO are paid by Samsung now I guess, LMAO!
On 2014-06-13 11:17:57, AbhiD999 wrote:
On 2014-06-13 10:54:22, miromiromi wrote:
looks like the s5 thread will be busy in the next few days ... nokia fannies engage!
haha
if dxomark has those grades for the s5 camera, there should be no reason for the note 4 to use a sony sensor (as rumored). looks like samsung's own sensor is just as good as sony's. they can now compete against sony in the mobile camera sensors market.
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2014-06-13 10:03 ]
All the previous Samsung flagships have been beating Sony in camera department. This is the 1st time when they stand equal to Sony's ! This obviously proves that samsung's own made sensor is a Step Backwards .
That's why they going for Sony made in note 4. And note 4 in my opinion will beat Sony's z2/z3 by a huge margin in cam.
Sony sensors are still miles better than any Samsung out there.
Problem lies with optics and software processing.
No, it's not a step backward, considering this is Samsungs 1st go at a mobile sensor and the fact that it is a SMALLER sensor, this is incredible, they have equalled Sony, the King of sensors at their 1st go, that is an embarrassment to Sony and a huge win for Samsung in many ways as it shows they are just as capable if not more, their smaller sensor has managed to keep up with Sony's much larger one, now I hope Samsung will drop Sony when it comes to the sensors in their flagships, as in terms of margins it makes better sense to just use their own in-house sensor, I hope the Note 4 comes with a 16MP ISOCELL with OIS, that will be a huge win for Samsung.
Samsung was forced to make it's own sensor because Sony did not source it's 20mpx sensor to anyone else. Samsung had to update the megapixel numbers of it's cam as it was stuck at 13mpx from two generations.
If samsung's sensor is so good i wonder why doesn't such awesomeness show up in their dedicated camera lineup !
Just compare s5 with QX10(same 1/2.3" sensor as z2) and s5's cam will learn it's actual place.
There is a reason why Samsung decided to go with Sony sensor in Galaxy Camera 2!
There is a reason why Samsung is switching back to Sony sensor in Note 4!
And there is a reason why you aren't samsung's ceo and take decisions.
The problem with Sony xperia series is lens and software processing. Not the sensor. It's still the best !
Do you have actual confirmation from Samsung that the Galaxy Note 4 will use a Sony sensor? Or is just one of your crazy statements?
The Galaxy S5 will indeed learn it's actual place as in the end it is a camera phone not an entire accessory built for photography, when compared to other phones the S5 does a brilliant job even putting the Z2 in its place.
There could be any amount of reasons that Samsung went with a Sony sensor in the Galaxy Camera 2:
ISOCELL wasn't ready
ISOCELL may cost more to implement and didn't make sense in such a niche device
Note enough components to make ISOCELL for both S5 and GC2
Etc... So don't be so quick to draw a conclusion just because it satisfies your own opinion.
As for me being CEO, well yes, I just wasn't born in the right country, year and family, duh.
If I'm not mistaken Samsung has had some production issues with their ISOCELL camera so these issues could effect just how many they can make and implement and they may have to prioritize which products get it, the Galaxy Note often don't have better optics than the Galaxy S range though or at least the results aren't as good as S range, so this may mean Samsung don't want the Note4 to have a better camera than the S5, there are all kinds of reasons, you rather quick to draw a conclusion when you don't even work there, try keep an open mind.
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Just a thought..
Shouldn't we start to have a seperate thread dedicated just for the Camera for each phone  "Z2 Camera Discussion" "S5 Camera Discussion" . You could all just fight each other and leave this thread for other aspects of the phone to be discussed
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itsjustJOH
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On 2014-06-13 14:04:01, Ranjith wrote:
Just a thought..
Shouldn't we start to have a seperate thread dedicated just for the Camera for each phone "Z2 Camera Discussion" "S5 Camera Discussion" . You could all just fight each other and leave this thread for other aspects of the phone to be discussed
Or call it the "ranting/trolling thread".
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Gitaroo
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this DXOMark review exactly proof the point, they rate how well a hardware can do for being what they are. If theres a camera with a tiny sensor at 4MP out there getting perfect scores in all the test it can still be rated higher than all the rest. Surprise that no one point out that Z2 camera being basically the last year hardware with tweak software was rated best for a while. Z3 will be interesting if it does use a smaller sensor and still remain at 20MP, which is guaranteed for marketing purpose. They might have a actual hardware based Bionz iimage processer next round. ISOCELL shows great result, but no one really know what happen behind the scene beside Samsung. The manufacturing process and the yield % can be low/bad and Samsung decide to eat the cost to get them out to just proof a point that they can. It can be dropped entirely like Samsung consumer OLED if they have decided that its not worth it and being cheaper to buy from a 3rd party, who knows. Sony has been in this business for a very long time and has been expanding like crazy buying plants to meet the demands for the last couples of years even when people are expecting them to do the opposite being in the financial situation they are in. | |
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