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vikeviki
Joined: Oct 16, 2012
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@XYZ it was a wildest guess ,which was wrong thanks for correcting me................ 
Whatever the F%$k the model is I need a better Sony ,nearly I wasted 4 months for xperia Z1 and got reimbursed after long hurdles ...This time seriously no Display panel lottery,but the point is if they dont release early they mightend up in losing there sales with other competitors S5 and IP6 ...however why there would be refresh of z1,it should have something unique in different for 2014 and people cant wait till IFA for Z2.
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tai020381
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You want better screen? Go for those phones in which their screen size just came announced new , example 5.2inches , 6 . I believe these will be newer screen technologies just like the Z ultra, which it's screen was newly announced too. |
karim128
Joined: Nov 30, 2008
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That's not true, just because a manufacturer announced a 5.2 inch screen, doesn't mean it won't produce one which is a little bit bigger/smaller with the same quality if one major manufacturer ordered one. Take the HTC One for example. There were no announcement from any manufacturer about a 4.7 inch screen, yet it has one of the best screens out there (brightness, contrast and color reproduction).
Besides, color reproduction depend on the color calibration from the device manufacturer, not the screen manufacturer, so even if two devices from two different phone manufacturers have the same screen, there will be a difference in quality.
Edit:And manufacturers can always customize the screen, just like Sony added a Quantum Dot filter on its screens(Triluminos).
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amirprog
Joined: Aug 22, 2013
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From: Israel
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@vikeviki
in terms of selling, 2012 was a successful year after 5 years of losses. 2013 looks to be more successful then 2012 for sony. so they are going back up in small steps it seems. reason for a new flagship in 2H i think is mainly because qualcomm offer their newest highend snapdragon then. but it's also perception. Z1 refresh can be aslo called a new flagship.
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XperiaCute
Joined: Jan 03, 2013
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I just wonder why Qualcomm delayed SD805 until nearly 2H 2014 , although it isn't really a big step and doesn't vary from couple of SD800 variant such as MSM8974AC ( 2.5GHz Quad-Core Krait 400 , 578MHz Adreno 330 ... )
I thought at first Qualcomm is about to announce its 64-bit processors at CES , unfortunately that didn't happen for sure they might announce later on this year but the availability would be until Q2 2015 or so .. 
just see who much Krait64 looks promising !
I feel Snapdragon 805 is litter upgrade , nothing revolutionary about it and Tegra & Exynos doing much better this year !
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karim128
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SD 805 is seriously underestimated. It has 40% more graphical power over SD800, and bring other features like tessalation. Tegra K1 should be faster by 40% , but then it would have a TDP of 5 Watt, which cannot fit in a phone. If it were to be used in a phone, it would have to be downlocked a lot, and then it woudn't be any faster than 805. Not to mentions UFS 2.0, which should enable much faster memories, and much faster boot times, and launch times for apps. |
Away
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The annoying thing is the tablet will only have a msm8974ab, or msm8974ac at best. That's barely faster than the msm8974, found in so many phones 6 months before we think it will release. |
HxH
Joined: Dec 26, 2008
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On 2014-01-19 11:15:10, XperiaCute wrote:
I just wonder why Qualcomm delayed SD805 until nearly 2H 2014 , although it isn't really a big step and doesn't vary from couple of SD800 variant such as MSM8974AC ( 2.5GHz Quad-Core Krait 400 , 578MHz Adreno 330 ... )
I thought at first Qualcomm is about to announce its 64-bit processors at CES , unfortunately that didn't happen for sure they might announce later on this year but the availability would be until Q2 2015 or so ..
just see who much Krait64 looks promising !
I feel Snapdragon 805 is litter upgrade , nothing revolutionary about it and Tegra & Exynos doing much better this year !
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FYI, I read somewhere that TSMC has expect revenue from 20nm chip this year, only 10%!
which would be good explanation, why SD805 is quite such a delay.
to give more space Qualcomm to do better custom 64-bit chip.
I don't understand why everyone crazy about 64bit chipset, when Android OS is still not 64bit.
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amirprog
Joined: Aug 22, 2013
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CES: s800 '13>s805 '14>s810 (predicted name as with 410) '15... qualcomm don't care about not being the first with 64 bit because they dominate the market with no rivals. they are monopoly.
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Xajel
Joined: Jun 18, 2004
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On 2014-01-19 14:56:50, amirprog wrote:
CES: s800 '13>s805 '14>s810 (predicted name as with 410) '15... qualcomm don't care about not being the first with 64 bit because they dominate the market with no rivals. they are monopoly.
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Well, because the dominate the market, they should care and I sensed it in their second comment about Apples A7...
All companies are accelerating now.. but the point is.. beside Apple all other companies relies on ARM Architecture... no changes.. and only 64bit ready one is the low end core ( A53 ), the higher-end core ( A57 ) is not expected to be ready till 2H14... Qualcomm is using their own design.. and they did introduce Krait before A15.. so we might be able to predict that Qualcomm might actually be ready with their Krait64 before A57... But who knows !!
Regarding TSMC 20nm
“We have two fabs, fab 12 and fab 14 that complete the core of the 20nm-SoC. As a matter of fact, we have started production. We are in the [high]-volume [20nm] production as we speak right now,” said C. C. Wei, co-chief executive officer and co-president of TSMC, during a conference call with investors and financial analysts.
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At present TSMC is producing chips using 20nm fabrication process at select modules of fabs 12 and 14. Starting from May, the company will initiate 20nm production at the fab 15 modules 3 and 4.
The world’s largest contract maker of semiconductors predicts that wafers processed using 20nm process technologies will account for around 10% of its 2014 total wafer revenue. In Q4 the 20nm manufacturing technology is expected to account for 20% of TSMC revenue.
Source: http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/[....]g_20nm_Process_Technology.html
I guess 10-20% is good, this does not mean that 20nm isn't doing well like it should go for 100% revenue... the fact is only select types of manufacturing will require advanced process like SoC and GPU's... most other stuff that TSMC do as well doesn't require 20nm.. some still use 28, 32 or even 45 depending on the application as the 20nm is too new, too expensive and too complicated for their needs.. so they're going for some proved low cost solution for this... this is the case with every major contractor...
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unknownC151A
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On 2014-01-18 16:17:56, king-james wrote:
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Oh really? And Sony not? Sony Z > ZL > Z1 > Z1s = 4 models + some region untits in a year! Didn't list the lower Z's. Why not 1 device per year? Others can, Sony still not. Cause they are too slow to put better HW into it devices...
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Wtf your response is very poor. What's the difference between Galaxy S4 and S4 Active?? You do the Z1 and Z1s are the same phone? Wipe your Samsung fanboy ass out of the forum. Seriously, if you want to debate, I will highly encourage you to put in more effort in researching. It's simply Z>Z1. Don't fabricate stories to make yourself sound credible. I can brutally tell you. It's not working. |
alexander87
Joined: Oct 27, 2006
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From: doesn't matter...I kick ass ev
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come on man, ignore that dude's replies
he's as irrelevant as it gets 
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vikeviki
Joined: Oct 16, 2012
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From: INDIA,bangalore
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why does king(queen)-james becomes rhetoric day by day........guys he lost his mind after buying z or may be I recall note2 or 3...ne ways its his opinion but he has to try in Samsung forums..
coming to the point we have one monthleft and we need to ask RANDOM user aka RAMU...why are u silents on leak bro...puts some momentum to this forum........ |
alexander87
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what happened to razec tho? O_O
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amirprog
Joined: Aug 22, 2013
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From: Israel
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@Xajel
interesting. let's hope for a 64 bit device at IFA.
Xperia Z1 Compact retail packaging spied: http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]ompact-retail-packaging-spied/
that yellow is HOT! "for the brave and unpredictable"  and i'm a black phone guy, hehe. that pink is clearly for girls. nice present for a girl.  "bold with a hint of sweetness" they should make a red one as well.
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