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spark9990
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Looks like we have another dud smart pda phone.
as you will see from the video, the X1 is desperately crying for some dedicated video acceleration.
Looks like HTC have messed things up for Sony Ericcson.
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razec
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On 2008-04-26 01:42:19, spark9990 wrote:
Looks like we have another dud smart pda phone.
as you will see from the video, the X1 is desperately crying for some dedicated video acceleration.
Looks like HTC have messed things up for Sony Ericcson.
http://www.theunwired.net/?it[....]-windows-mobile-6-1-smartphone
[ This Message was edited by: spark9990 on 2008-04-26 00:44 ]
X1 does have video acceleration!, VGA video recording is only possible with the help of it. in X1 whitepaper it is clearly stated that the device records VGA30Fps video so it's pretty obvious that it does use it  GSMArena opinions were always full of their personal theories...
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On 2008-04-25 18:03:47, Yakkaimono wrote:
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AFAIK X1 won't support TV/Out. 
There isn't anything on the whitepaper about it.
But if I'm wrong and the X1 supports TV/Out then it would be most likely through the 3.5 mm audio jack I think.
WM imate 9502 has tv/out (also a htc device). But ur right whitepaper says nothing about it for X1. Hopefully they will add the spec in the next version of X1.
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Hey guys, i m new around here but i have been reading through this entire forum and have gained a lot of knowledge about xperia. I would like to discuss my theory about the lag in the video. There are 2 versions of x1, the american and the international one. What i believe is that the american model does not have the accelerator while the other has it. The american version does not record videos at vga 30fps. I also noticed that the models displayed at gsma had smoother animations than those at ctia. Most probably the recent video had the american model. |
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you might be onto something. I've also heard reference to two video modes - one that uses acceleration and one that doesn't. The non-accelerated only uses 15fps. I'm not sure where I heard that and can't find the reference. It might even be about another phone.
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I thought some reported that X1 can only record VGA @30fps when recording in poor quality 3gpp video format. When the higher quality mp4 format is used, then it can only do VGA @ 15fps.
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yep that's what I heard too, maybe that's what I was thinking of?
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Yakkaimono
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Found something on the white paper concerning the US version.
It will support MPEG4 @ VGA 30fps, H.263 @ QVGA 24fps and H.264 is not supported.
In the normal version H.264 is supprted @ VGA 15fps. |
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For a number of reasons I cannot disclose names, BUT I have been told by a very senior guy at Ericsson that  make the X1 on the back of an HTC chipset! and I quote "if you think the X1 is cool wait till you see what we are bringing out next year it will totally blow you and the market away!"
He declined to go into more detail, but he was very very excited. Lets wait and see, but knowing this guy and his position I am now also very excited!
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sounds promising 
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WhyBe
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On 2008-04-26 14:13:42, max_wedge wrote:
sounds promising
That something newer and better would come out? Go figure... Never would've guessed
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no, I meant promising as it may mean tv out support and significantly better hardware.
I'm not an idiot, I'm quite aware that new versions of things are "usually" better, though I can't see much reason to drop an N95 in favour of an N96...
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What's the benefit of a TVout? Is it used to play video files on a TV screen, sort of like a portable media player?
Also, there are several new phones coming to the market that have TV capability. Does this mean they simply have a TV tuner built in or is there some new media standard that's been developed that is used to stream the TV data?
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Yakkaimono
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TV-Out means you can connect your device through a cinch, scart or s-video to your TV and playback your media files on it.
It's the same function like that of a camcorder which you can connect to the TV to watch your videos that you've made. |
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On 2008-04-27 08:03:40, WhyBe wrote:
There are several new phones coming to the market that have TV capability. Does this mean they simply have a TV tuner built in or is their some new media standard that's been developed that is used to stream the TV data?
there are several new TV techs coming out. DTV free to air programming aimed at mobile phones is coming (and phones with compatible free-to-air receivers), also there are some handsets with DTV receivers for the current free to air DTV broadcasts.
Pay TV on mobiles is usually delivered via gprs (data), but in deals with operators where you subscribe to a channel and the gprs useage is covered in the monthly subscription payment.
This method simply uses the built in browser to stream video to your handset over a gprs connection.
The most likely technology to prevail imho is the gprs streaming method, especially as subscription prices come down. There are some practical issues (both technical and economic) that may prevent DTV free to air take off. Firstly manufacturers may be finding DTV receivers hard to miniturise. Also Operators are probably pressuring manufacturers to disgard DTV development in favour of improved network speeds for HDTV delivery over mobile internet. Operators are value adding and one of the extra values you get with a provider now is TV. If a provider can offer HDTV they will have an advantage so operators are vying for the first in line position to deliver HDTV. Obviously they want to deliver it over their own networks (not create new HDTV broadcast networks) so I think it's possible that Pay HDTV will win out over free to air DTV.
HOWEVER, if I'm wrong, and I hope I am, the free to air industry and advertisers will lobby more effectively than operators expect and gain a foothold in the DTV delivery market. They could do this by making deals with manufacturers to provide handsets with DTV receivers to be sold as "DTV" ready devices. If enough of the public take up these handsets in order to watch free tv with ads (which we all do at home anyway, why not on a mobile sometimes too?), the phenomenon may spread.
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