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ihejirika
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Posted: 2005-01-25 00:47
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@Aya,its an honorable thing 2 render apology when one is wrong.If I were u,I'll rather discus issues & not personalities.

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OluYom
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Posted: 2005-01-25 06:51
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@ihe: There are few people on this planet as ready with an apology anytime as I am. But I don't see any point you have made courtesy of big gramma . Simplify your line of argument, then I can see your point & decide whether I am wrong or not.

My point again in simpler english: A majority of Nigerians are intellectually lazy. Rather than identify potentials & solve problems, they blame everone else & look at the grass on the other side.But a lizard in Lagos is a lizard (not an alligator) in Paris. Many times, such people are part of the problems they blame on others.



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ihejirika
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Posted: 2005-01-25 08:47
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@Aya,I welcome constructive criticisms.I agree tht ther r lazy Nigerians(tht they r in majority is left 4 u 2 prove)Wisemen r men who hav good sense & can decide on right actions.I reject any statemnt tht allude laziness 2 wise Nigerians.

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Posted: 2005-01-25 10:10
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@ihe. That you have agreed to the fact that intellectual laziness exists among Nigerians is good. We have a common ground to start from.

Now, that it is in the majority is clearly evident, because the fruits of wisdom are always clear for all to see. The majority of Nigerians work day & night, year after year, with nothing to show for it.

A man whose salary is less than N5,000 a month has spawned 7 children. He has no functional savings account (or culture). He uses his muscles but not his head.

Someone will argue that its because of our economy (blame-shifting again), but I know a few who started poor but by reason of wisdom have built stable lives for themselves. My dad is a living example. And I know of others who started out comfortable but do not have a place to lay their heads today.

But you raised an issue which I must touch. A man cannot be wise and lazy at the same time. If he is lazy, then he is a foolish man. Every intellectually lazy Nigerian is a member of the commity of foolish men. No apologies about that


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ihejirika
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Posted: 2005-01-25 10:26
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@Aya,tht d poor carpentr in d streets of Lagos suffer against all odds 2 see his son thr" formal educatn & his son who turn out a brick layer & train his sister in nursg sch"l r unwise/lazy & r not applyg their head is wht I disagree wth.

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Posted: 2005-01-25 12:41
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Hello. two people from nigeria wants to buy my phone I posted on ebay.. they're paying thru bidpay and the other one thru western union.. I don't know if they are scammers or is ebay really that big in nigeria?
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Posted: 2005-01-25 13:37
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Hi guys wats up, did i hear someone mention my elusive Father Xmas?
Well this is New Year, but i wouldnt mind a belated Xmas Gift!
ihejirika
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Posted: 2005-01-25 14:04
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@Aya,in simplified English,ths carpenters son got a 1st class degree in University but due 2 circumstances beyond his control,ended up a brick layer from wch he also sufferd 2 train his sister.I dont see ths family as too lazy/unwise.

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OluYom
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Posted: 2005-01-25 15:32
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@ihe: Struggling & sweating are not the same as being intellectually smart. People can use their muscles a lot & not use their heads much. @alfaromeo777: I really have no facts on your question, but I do see quite some ads in the dailies touting shopping/selling on ebay.

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ihejirika
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Posted: 2005-01-25 15:51
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@Aya,If this poor family who r strugglg & sweatg so hard 2 beat their presnt condition & r gettg so little 4 it r accused of being too lazy,intellectually stupid & not usg their heads,I thnk tht they deserve an apology & not blame.

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Posted: 2005-01-25 16:07
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@ihe: Has it occurred to you that the reason many stay poor is that they do not harness the creative potentials in themselves? The average poor person who wants to do business starts selling what everyone else on that very street is already selling. That is no being smart. They may not be poor by choice, but many times, they stay poor by ommission. A little exercise of the head would yield better results, IMHO.

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ihejirika
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Posted: 2005-01-25 18:09
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@Aya,this carpenter's son doesn't intend 2 stay poor.Thtz why he exercised his head & took to brick laying wch is d creative potential in him.He didnt squander his money,he spent it traing his sister.I think you insult his intelligence.

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Posted: 2005-01-25 21:40
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@ihe: Good. This guy is not a pix of d majority then, bcos d majority spend their scarce funds on owambe, beer, women, aso-ebi & d sort, rather than invest in their future & d lives of others. D example u have given represents d minority. D state of our society 2day is proof enough. Apologies to dis carpenter's son, but dat doesn't blow a hole in my assertion dat d majority don't think productively.

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ihejirika
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Posted: 2005-01-25 22:25
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@Aya,ths man represents d common man in ur street(ur Dad)who in d face of harsh conditions successfully walkd out of poverty whn lucky & when not lucky remain poor in d same street.Re-examine ur assertions less u b accused of ingratitude.

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Posted: 2005-01-25 22:31
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@ihe: I do not believe in luck. I believe that both opportunities & troubles come to every man. God gives rain & sunshine to both good & evil men. Some are prepared & so use opportunities to move forward. Others are not (or do not recognise these opportunities) & so stay down. Some let troubles keep them down; others use them as stepping stones.

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