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doministry
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I could't make any blurred photo like this
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DexterMoser
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On 2014-06-07 05:44:38, Gitaroo wrote:
then that's just sad, how can someone make such amazing NEX cameras and professional camcorder and fail so bad here. Unless they didn't let the camera division touching the software side of things at all.
It sounds like a conspiracy theory, but I agree with other people saying that the camera division of Sony "fears" the mobile cameras and wants to hold back the image quality. So even if the "Alpha camera team" has worked with in the production of the smartphone it doesn't mean anything, unless they give their best, which I think won't happen.
It's a bigger marketing aspect saying the technology comes from the Sony camera division (and things that everyone remembers in Alpha cameras like G-Lens, Bionz) than actual image quality.
Actual image quality will only be measured in objective mobile camera reviews. But only a minority (like us) of Sony customers will actually read these reviews! Most customers will get to know the Sony Xperia Z2 only through advertising and their favorite mobile network shop/website/advertising. Both of these possibilities don't include tests of image quality like reviews. They only mention buzzwords mentioned in the press release (20,7MP, Bionz, Exmor RS, G-Lens...).
In the end, my guess is Sony thinks the image quality is good enough for most of the customers. And marketing value is more import than real value. But that's the point also for other manufacturers.
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On 2014-06-07 12:13:32, doministry wrote:
I could't make any blurred photo like this
It's not photo, it is video.
http://www.gsmarena.com/vidcm[....]33&idPhone2=6294&idPhone3=6144
It is blurry everywhere on the Sony, pathetic. Bionz means jack if you ask me for the Z1 or Z2, needs a dedicated chip and that won't happen, and probably imaging division wouldn't allow it I feel.
As was posted by DexterMoser, Fujitsu has gotten a hold of the 20.7MP sensor from sony for their device
http://www.fujitsu.com/global[....]ess-releases/2014/0526-01.html
So it will be interesting to see how well it performs and if it has the same issues as the Z2, if not, then clearly Sony's firmware is what sucks balls and they don't give a flying f**k about quality.
I am content with the Z1's image quality for now, but not sure I would go for another Sony for my next phone, clearly nothing is improving and the "one" Sony Kazai promised is not there yet for the mobile space.
Only thing to look forwards to I feel is the next gen QX lens cameras, hopefully a fixed lens, 1inch version that is more compact than the current QX100. |
Gitaroo
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I think their camera team just design the best possible hardware they can fit into whatever the phone is going to be and that was all they did. Software were all handled by the xperia software team in EU which know jack shit about camera. The samsung k zoom is using the same sensor correct? Which looks very promising and good already. I think this has already proof that their issue has a lot to do with the software. |
ascariss
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Hmm didn't know that used the Sony sensor. I agree, Xperia software team is fail when it comes to camera firmware.
Although Sony's forte has never been software, thinking back to the atrac days and the media transfer software which was bundled with the various walkmans. Not counting Vegas studio, Acid or soundforge, since these were not made from scratch by Sony  |
cu015170
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On 2014-06-06 16:53:16, DexterMoser wrote:
Well, that's not totally correct.
The Z2 has the top stop on DXO.. so if you go on their website looking for the best cameraphone, you will have to go for the Z2, not the 808. It doesn't matter how they score, the final result is what people look at..
On 2014-06-07 05:44:38, Gitaroo wrote:
then that's just sad, how can someone make such amazing NEX cameras and professional camcorded and fail so bad here. Unless they didn't let the camera division touching the software side of things at all.
Mobile imaging and dedicated camera imaging are two very different things... on a mobile phone you have very strict size limitations, on a dedicated camera they have way more freedom. For example, the RX100 III is bigger than the previous two versions. |
Gitaroo
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that is true, I am also suspecting that Z1 was probably the also the first time the camera team has to write software for a ARM processor or processor that is completely different from what they are used to before unlike others which have been doing that very early on. IRC someone on XDA said that Bionz only works in 8 MP mode. |
janne_145
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hihihans
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I bet you whish you had fitted that cover the wrong way.
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Ranjith
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am i the only having these short spikes of overheating (temp goes to 38-45C) and battery drain quickly that time even when im on Wifi and not doing much.Even on standby !after 20 odd minutes it goes all back to normal though.Any ideas?
I  ESATO I W1i  T20,T65, P800(2x),K800,Z300,  800, 850 (2x),P1i(with WALKMAN) |
tesndro353
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Camera quality is terrible  |
Xajel
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On 2014-06-08 15:27:09, Ranjith wrote:
am i the only having these short spikes of overheating (temp goes to 38-45C) and battery drain quickly that time even when im on Wifi and not doing much.Even on standby !after 20 odd minutes it goes all back to normal though.Any ideas?
Some apps have a bad habit of forgetting that they're running in the background, I don't know is it from the app developer or from the Android way of handling these background apps... thought I'm guessing it's the first in 75% of the cases.. but the ROM plays a major also as it should handle these apps and resources
I have this issue with my S4, in the first days of it the situation is disaster, nothing will stop it even closing all the apps or using task managers, I had to restart every time... after two updates the phone is much better now... some times I see this but closing all the apps solve it in 90% of the cases
one of the solutions I tried is installing a different stock rom, I should use UAE ROM as I live in Bahrain, but I tried it and I tried KSA ROM with no different.. but when I tried the Russian ROM it was much much better, the battery lasted longer also with the heat coming much better.. later updates improves it a lot...
Well, after all it's a Samsung device and they have weird ( and some bad ) habits in their software and devices
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doministry
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I agree.
My default non branded polish ROM has these little bugs.
Like no ability to add Tasks to the Calendar.
Or random memory leak and some small problems with apps running in the background.
As for the battery I confirm one thing:
when I use phone alot after I finish and put it in my pocket, the batt percentage goes down by 2% in the next few minutes.
Probably because it gets hot, but I don't know since I have a book case 
BUT the battery is fantastic anyway. 48hrs - that's what I need sometimes!
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Ranjith
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@Xajel anyway of finding out what Apss are causing the issue? Thankfully this doesn't last for long,just 20mins or so and yes it has improved with the last FW update i got..hmmm lets see anyway,glad im not along on this 
BTW finally checked out SONY Select and wow there are some nice free themes!
[ This Message was edited by: Ranjith on 2014-06-09 15:33 ] I ESATO I W1i T20,T65, P800(2x),K800,Z300, 800, 850 (2x),P1i(with WALKMAN) |
Bonovox
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Sony Z2 wins between M8,S5,G2,Nexus 5 in What Hi Fi Sound & Vision
http://www.whathifi.com/news/[....]2%80%93-july-issue-now-on-sale
Think you have to buy the mag though
Also another handset using Sony sensor Huawei P7 & their image processing has been praised here
http://www.techradar.com/revi[....]246719/review/5#articleContent
Sorry Sony fans wrong thread I know 
[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2014-06-10 18:13 ] Phone?? What phone?? |
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