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randomuser
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Posted: 2013-08-13 14:30
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Well we all know PA/Cnet verdict on i1 camera already

" Xperia i1 improves upon the previous Sony smartphone cameras but sadly we believe they still have some way to go before they can match the best in the business. We preferred the images produced by the Galaxy S4 and Iphone 5S slightly more with good saturation and punch while the i1 images were slightly cold and we don't appreciate that"

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Posted: 2013-08-13 14:32
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Uh, hey ramu, I don't know if I missed something but why does the first page info say Honami would now have a 1/2" 20 MP sensor? I thought the 1/2.3" size was the closest to confirmation, so where did that come from? Plus the 32 GB ROM, from 16 GB. I am not doubting you, though, just surprised that the specs got changed.
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Posted: 2013-08-13 14:35
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On 2013-08-13 13:51:35, Shotokan81 wrote:
I am not a pro but I would say it depends of the movement you are trying to correct, for instance, if the lens is heavier than body, and you move the lens when supporting it with relatively more stable sensor position, then lens correction could be better for this case, at least it makes sense.


As I said, OIS is controlled decentering and can cause problems with sharpness of picture, at least on 'cheaper' lenses. When on lenses without stabilization you shouldn't worry about decentering. If it was good at the beginning it shouldn't cause problems in future
Regarding what you said, that is why olmympus has 5 axis sensor based image stabilization
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Posted: 2013-08-13 14:36
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Xperia i1 improves upon the previous Sony smartphone cameras but sadly we believe they still have some way to go before they can match the best in the business. We preferred the images produced by the Galaxy S4 and Iphone 5S slightly more with good saturation and punch while the i1 images were slightly cold and we don't appreciate that


And that's exactly why CNET is the worst reviewer out there, back in the days, they don't need to show tests on how they arrive on their verdict, because people know CNET is trustworthy, but now CNET is a company run by getting paid for to write good reviews with one product and bash the others, so without proper lab test to show, all the words coming from their posts are nothing but BS
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randomuser
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Posted: 2013-08-13 14:38
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On 2013-08-13 14:32:35, itsjustJOH wrote:
Uh, hey ramu, I don't know if I missed something but why does the first page info say Honami would now have a 1/2" 20 MP sensor? I thought the 1/2.3" size was the closest to confirmation, so where did that come from? Plus the 32 GB ROM, from 16 GB. I am not doubting you, though, just surprised that the specs got changed.


That was a mistake,ill correct it. I don't think I changed 32 to 16
I don't think we have any confirmation on 16 GB, 32 is more likely IMO

EDIT: ePrice mentioned 16 GB.
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Posted: 2013-08-13 14:43
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Oh, I thought the Honami has a new sensor
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Posted: 2013-08-13 14:44
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I do believe Honami has a new sensor and not one taken from existing Cybershot cameras. We'll find out on Sep 4th (I am not hinting at a larger sensor as the lens accessories make a larger sensor pointless, but only a 1/2.3" sensor with slightly better tech compared to cameras like HX50V)

BTW can someone find a full size photo from Lumia 1020 similar to the leaked Honami sample?
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Posted: 2013-08-13 14:47
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The fact that each pixel is slightly larger on the Honami should not be overlooked.
For me it's a clear win for Sony!


Well that fact only matters when both cameras have the same MP count, if You resize 41MP to 20MP suddenly the pixel size is much higher than Honami, but as experience shows, pixel size is not really important, look at HTC One and it's 3,14micron pixel, it has one of the worst cameras out there, because it's only 4MP.
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Posted: 2013-08-13 14:56
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On 2013-08-13 14:44:37, randomuser wrote:
I do believe Honami has a new sensor and not one taken from existing Cybershot cameras. We'll find out on Sep 4th (I am not hinting at a larger sensor as the lens accessories make a larger sensor pointless, but only a 1/2.3" sensor with slightly better tech compared to cameras like HX50V)

BTW can someone find a full size photo from Lumia 1020 similar to the leaked Honami sample?
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-08-13 13:50 ]



U mean 1/2.3 with backside-illuminated CMOS sensor?
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Posted: 2013-08-13 14:57
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^ 20MP Exmor R should mean backside illuminated as far as I know



On 2013-08-13 14:47:03, admad wrote:
[...] look at HTC One and it's 3,14micron pixel, it has one of the worst cameras out there, because it's only 4MP.

Ok you got that point, I cannot deny that!

(Ok, I have to mention that the HTC One's pixel size is only about 1,786 micron, not 3,14 micron, HTC just uses the surface in square micron which is not very commen, that is just their marketing)


Nevertheless my opinion stays the same, Honami will be better. But we will find out soon. Just 22 days to go
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Posted: 2013-08-13 15:00
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Yes Exmor R = back illuminated

I believe HHT - Handheld Twilight Mode is Honami's biggest combat weapon against L1020 in low light
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Posted: 2013-08-13 15:08
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On 2013-08-13 15:00:40, randomuser wrote:
Yes Exmor R = back illuminated

I believe HHT - Handheld Twilight Mode is Honami's biggest combat weapon against L1020 in low light
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HHT works by stacking 6 high ISO images and micro-aligning them as one less noisy and more detailed output, oh wait the presence of HHT means Honami can burst capture at least 6FPS!
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Posted: 2013-08-13 15:08
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Will the S-Master amp really make that much of a difference to the audio quality I own an Xperia Z along with the NFC capable headphone the BTN200
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Posted: 2013-08-13 15:09
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On 2013-08-13 15:08:19, XperiaJunkie wrote:
Will the S-Master amp really make that much of a difference to the audio quality I own an Xperia Z along with the NFC capable headphone the BTN200



The difference is day and night
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Posted: 2013-08-13 15:11
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The S master chip on the old walkman X was absolutely fabulous, but we couldn't say much about Honami's, unless it's the same chip or even better I think It'll be much better than anything else in the market right now
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