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Wishmaster89
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Posted: 2013-08-12 11:46
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I think that this particular kind of halo comes from not fine tuned processing, you can see that especially on the garmin logo, sharp but not uniform if you know what I mean. From optical point of view I think there's everything fine, although can't judge that without seeing RAW's but JPEG's look good.
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Posted: 2013-08-12 11:50
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Actually the pre production samples that I saw from last time looked similar to this, even the way Honami's image noise looked like (which appears as a crisscross pattern).
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Posted: 2013-08-12 12:01
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On 2013-08-12 11:38:50, razec wrote:
^^ If you're referring to the visible color fringing on the garmin logo as well as the bright reflective portion of the bike then I think the problem is on the lens, not processing, DSLR lenses usually come equipped with special coatings which reduces this kind of defect.



well you crops are more then 100%

this is 100%


for me this is very good and much better then before on any other sony phone
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Posted: 2013-08-12 12:32
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^^ I wasn't cropping, I was just showing some problems with the lens/post processing. like that noise that appears like a crisscross pattern.
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Wishmaster89
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Posted: 2013-08-12 12:34
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We need RAW data to judge what this sensor-lens combo is really capable of
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Posted: 2013-08-12 13:07
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The Camera looks promising

So we now have 2 devices to be announced 4th Sept
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New Tablet

BTW, Will Xperia Tablet Z2 support stylus or will have the same tech as ZU and I want a remind of its XR5 specs again
xdomino996
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Posted: 2013-08-12 13:12
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@up
+ Honami Mini
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Posted: 2013-08-12 13:19
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No, honami mini/Ray 3 will not be shown at IFA.
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Posted: 2013-08-12 13:28
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ohh. iPhone comes out September 10, so Sony is late.
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Posted: 2013-08-12 13:29
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On 2013-08-12 12:32:01, razec wrote:
^^ I wasn't cropping, I was just showing some problems with the lens/post processing. like that noise that appears like a crisscross pattern.



That pattern noise is most likely just sensor noise. The smaller your pixel size the more you get of it. Without RAW output it's impossible to tell for sure, but I'm very confident this has nothing to do with the lens or post-processing and is just something you have to deal with when you're using these resolutions on a small scale.
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Posted: 2013-08-12 13:32
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hope honami had bezel like Xperia ZL
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Posted: 2013-08-12 13:41
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I will be royalty miffed if there is going to be a Tablet Z 2 launched at IFA. I got mine on launch day in the UK on the 22nd of May and a new one announced ONLY a few months later BAD FORM SONY.
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Posted: 2013-08-12 13:47
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On 2013-08-12 13:32:52, tk007 wrote:
hope honami had bezel like Xperia ZL


Keep Dreamin

I think the only way to solve the big screen bezel is to make the phone thin Like ZU >>> that way the design will keep its legendary
Wishmaster89
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Posted: 2013-08-12 14:38
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On 2013-08-12 13:29:17, Ambroos wrote:
That pattern noise is most likely just sensor noise. The smaller your pixel size the more you get of it. Without RAW output it's impossible to tell for sure, but I'm very confident this has nothing to do with the lens or post-processing and is just something you have to deal with when you're using these resolutions on a small scale.

I agree, that it has nothing to do with lens itself. Unless the lens can't resolve the amount of details and it needs more processing. Those artifacts look like icy crystals and I have to agree with what you said earlier that it is probably due to luminance noise reduction. It seems that sony wants to have smooth output with no grain.

We need RAW data for analysis!
Ricky D
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Posted: 2013-08-12 16:59
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If we're at a stage where we need RAW data and a pixel by pixel analysis to determine whether or not the quality is 'good', then surely we're at a stage where if you want better you should buy a quality camera i.e. does it matter that much on a phone?


Not aiming directly at the above post, but rather at the last few pages.
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