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Visual communication like never before with the Sony Ericsson Satio |
se_love
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On 2009-05-30 15:37:30, estatophan wrote:
On 2009-05-30 11:13:46, Consumology wrote:
About the 3.5: I cannot see why I would need one, I think it is useless but I do not get this:
"If the phone had a 3.5mm jack then you could use your headphones but would have to use the phone's mic when taking calls. To get a wired mic it would require another adapter instead of the fastport adapter they provide now."
> If I am not mistaken my P800 had a 3.5 and I could make calls with that headset as well.
About Magnetometer aka electric Compass: As far as I know it is important if you navigate with the car, otherwise the navigation device does not realize when you change lanes.
Is it certain that the Satio does not have it? I do not even know if my GPS Enabler HGE-100 has one, I use it with my G900 and it is super precise.
You really have no idea how retarded SE fastports are.
You probably have no idea how easy it is to have a port for charging headphones and PC connectivity. |
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Tsepz_GP
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You dont know how much EASIER it is to have 3 different ports for them, especialy now that Nokia have USB Charging. 
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NightBlade
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On 2009-05-30 12:00:23, GUCCI.011 wrote:
NightBlade
Ye for video resolution the OmniaHD is better, but it records the audio of the video in AMR  ,so even for video the Satio has an advantage, id rather have VGA @30FPS with AAC audio and have a nice balance than have nice quality but crap audio.
Indeed, OmniaHD's audio recording is purely dreadful. The video lags, too. But I omitted these facts because I didn't want some fanboys to be throwing rocks at me from the other side of the globe.
PS. Even my C905 records miles better audio. 
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NightBlade
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On 2009-05-30 17:58:18, GUCCI.011 wrote:
You dont know how much EASIER it is to have 3 different ports for them, especialy now that Nokia have USB Charging.
He's right, though. I should know. Having one charger for all the accessories and the phone is very convenient.
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 The headphones look cheap |
estatophan
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On 2009-05-30 18:22:08, NightBlade wrote:
On 2009-05-30 17:58:18, GUCCI.011 wrote:
You dont know how much EASIER it is to have 3 different ports for them, especialy now that Nokia have USB Charging.
He's right, though. I should know. Having one charger for all the accessories and the phone is very convenient.
They become lose very easily. |
se_love
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On 2009-05-30 21:27:49, estatophan wrote:
On 2009-05-30 18:22:08, NightBlade wrote:
On 2009-05-30 17:58:18, GUCCI.011 wrote:
You dont know how much EASIER it is to have 3 different ports for them, especialy now that Nokia have USB Charging.
He's right, though. I should know. Having one charger for all the accessories and the phone is very convenient.
They become lose very easily.
Only if you mistreat it and take it out wrong.
On 2009-05-30 17:58:18, GUCCI.011 wrote:
You dont know how much EASIER it is to have 3 different ports for them, especialy now that Nokia have USB Charging.
Oh yes surely its much better to have 3 different cable styles. I its much easier for me to have a fastpor cable with a connector on the connector for other fast port cables. I dunno its all about prefences. |
Consumology
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Aaah, now I get it, it is so logical that having more connectors is better. So think one step further and get an iPod, a Digicam, a Videocam, a Navigation device, and something like a J200 for making phone calls. And a backpack to carry all of them plus the chargers and other cables around with you. That seems to be rather cool and you can have much better video recording!
The rest of us backward people can go for Satio and continue to use the oh so stupid FastPort... |
ros-mari
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sorry to ask , but will it have Clear audio quality like my w705 and w980?
sorry if it has been already posted; I read some pages but couldn't see it.
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Beautiful phone!
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Tsepz_GP
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Estato
Ive had my N81 for 18months now, and the 3.5mm jack, MicroUSB slot AND charger ports have NEVER HAD A SINGLE GLITCH, yet my K850 is what? 9-10months old and its fastport has days where it just doesnt detect what ive plugged into it, this often happens with the USB and sometimes headphones, it sometimes detects immediatly then in the middle of transfering a large file or listening to music it cuts off, had similar probs with W880, W800 and W900-as much i loved it, and then comes the issue of using the phone while its charging and needing to plug one fast port connector over another and the phone looks and feels awful. Maybe its just me who finds it more convenient to have the option to plug my headset in while charging the phone or while its on USB and not have any problems down the line. 
Now has it been confirmed how much ram this will have? 128mb?
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Consumology
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So you say it is easier to handle the phone when there are 2 cables attached to it in 2 places instead of the 2 cables attached in 1 place = FastPort???
I use technology quite extensive and often have to send in broken stuff - but none of my friends or I who have phones with FastPort ever had a problem with it. Maybe these problems come from something else then the FastPort itself...
I also like convenience when I charge my phone - this is why I use a Bluetooth headset...
As all important manufacturers have agreed on MicroUSB as a standard for charging I guess there is a good chance that the FastPort will disappear at some point - even if I do not like this. But Satio will have FastPort only and criticizing it 1000 times more won't change a thing. And I think, this is good |
Tsepz_GP
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Im simply replying to your posts otherwise i love Satio. S60 in a SE, talk about a dream come true, i was just pointing out the convenience of having seperate ports. Yes i dont mind multiple wires since they are at the top and bottom of the phone therefor not interfering anything and their connectors are nice and small unlike the big fastport but anyway lets lay that to rest.
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Consumology
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I was not just scolding you
The good thing about FastPort is also the possibility of a DeskStand - then you have no ugly cables at all. Has it actually been stated if there comes one in the box? |
my ninja
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so ok, i have held my tongue long enough.
SATIO looks pretty above average on paper, i hope that S60 V5 is good (i relly hope you can upgrade to S^2) but i digress.
im going to throw my two pennies in and see if we cant round off this dollar argument.
OLED of which i am a huge proponent, would go a long way to alleviate the size of the battery whenever we find out officially how large itll be. to the ppl that want to read it outside, you are blowing the matter out of proportion, how many TFTs can you see outside, the sheer fact that they are made to reflect the light that comes in negates your argument about TFT being better to read outside, we have seen the OLED devices and have compared them to the TFTs on the market today and its not a massive difference b.w hardly legible to maybe if i squint itll get better, fact of the matter is that BOTH TFT and OLED suck outside. now when i really need to see my phone i will make due, im not in some fantasy land where the sun follows me around everyday, and id like to add that im outside for at least 6hrs a day, where i need to use my phone. so with that background id GLADLY make the sacrifice for better composition of colors/refresh rates/resolution (yet to be achieved)/contrast AND BATTERY LIFE, for those who say it isnt significant, it is when you dont have to power a backlight and modulate its brightness level constantly. it is when a large percentage of power is being taken by that backlight, the radios take their fair share too esp GPS /WiFi.
3.5 mm jacks ... they have a hard time failing, i lost an 8gb microsdhc card on my K850i because the fastport has become loose in the past 2 months and my PC lost communication with the phone during mass storage mode ... and that story is for a different day. but if this phone is EU which it is, then i am limited by the headphones i can use, which is to say that the quality is lost by virtue of the number of connectors b.w the source and its reproduction (diaphragm/headphones). i would like to see a 3.5mm jack on the phone so that i can use my highend buds when im on a long trip. the wires are already long i dont need another 18"s hangin around me.
the video recording ... it has taken SE a GREAT, GREAT deal of time to get around to VGA recording so much so in fact that i thought they would forgo the one step at a time and just cut to something of a higher pixel density with a sensor of that magnitude. it is NOT exmor by the way.
if sony designed the phone it would have been exmor+bravia similar to the w61s, which STILL has a higher res than the SATIO on a MUCH smaller screen ... but they didnt because this was an ericsson venture. does anyone understand how this is possible? They need to sell phones but CONTINUE to ignore how much more advanced their own phones are over the competition outside of japan, its lunacy to think that a company who can create some gems would try again and really NOT stand out of the pack, its sad.
Cliffs Notes:
- OLED is now Viable, if SONY wants to beat SAMSUNG which they CLEARLY do or we wouldnt have had the 11" OLED TV last year, then they would do what is smart and push the tech out in their phones and call it a new brand and market the heck out of it so when they are ready to sell TV's they have a presence and a name (even if it turned to e-ink in the sun itd still be better)
- Higher Resolution Screen (800x480 ... 1024x768) old hat in japan (not xga, but wvga)
- Higher Than VGA recording should be expected at least give me some more frames to work with (120fps) give me some kinda treat, stop sandbagging the video.
- Designated Audio jack would cut down on failures than a one port for all uses but only one at a time deal.
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yea g
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You say TFT can't be read in sunlight, but my C905 is very easily legible in direct sun.
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Posted: 2009-05-30 15:38
