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N82 vs k850.......(some new good pics [800 x 600]) |
Janbobejan
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@Boba, Plank is from Turkey  Although I ain't so sure about the 'expert' part. I sincerely hope you are right though  |
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plankgatan
Joined: May 20, 2007
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turkey...he he..im a Viking god damn it.....
you know sailing, murdering, conquers.... that kind of shit.
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mib1800
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Finally even the SE friendly mobile-review site conceded that the N82 is the king of camera.
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-n82-en.shtml
There a bunch of people pondering over which phone, the Sony Ericsson K850i or the Nokia N82, is the best imaging-centric handset around. I, for one, don’t think there can be two polar opinions – the Nokia N82 is the one. Speaking in its favor are a conventional camera cover, and thus its always-clear lens. Its flash module is mounted in the way that, in contrast to the K850i, you can’t put you your finger on it should such necessity arise. Shooting with the N82 is a snap almost in any environments, even in winter with thick gloves on, whereas the K850i’s button were deaf to our touches, so we had to take gloves off and feel the chilly breath of winter. On top of that, the quality of flash and final images are superior in the Nokia’s product, and, let’s be honest, snaps made in similar conditions, while comparable, seem a tad clearer and more vibrant when taken with the N82. All in all, the Nokia N82 comes out on top in this battle.
I'll think we will be expecting plankgatan to declare the m-r review is bullcrap and that he has proof that K850 is better by reposting his (often shrunken) photos again...sigh 
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razec
Joined: Aug 20, 2006
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From: Pearl of the Orient Seas
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the flash pictures from N82's samples looks so blurry and compressed. similar to the issue i saw a while in GSMArena's K850 vs N82 flash test. and when i saw the Exif data the ISO is boosted at level 800. G800 and K850's christmas tree pictures looks darker but they are not so blurred and the details even in darkness were more pure and well defined compared to the useless details on N82s "although it appears bright". no wonder why all Xenon based phones(Viewty, K850, and G800) seemed looser in brightness compared to the overpraised N82 xenon lamp. as always Nokia loves to make tricks and this flash trick is one of them and is not acceptable among all digital camera users. i don't know why GSMArena was so impressed with N82's flash pics while it's so blurred and compressed.
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mib1800
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@razec
the flash pictures from N82's samples looks so blurry and compressed.
I think your eyes are playing tricks on you. I dont blame you if you deliberately chose not to see. 
Flash picts from m-r review clearly shows K850 is the one that is blurred. N82 flash pict is obviously superior with its clarity and vibrancy. K850 ones are just blurred and noisy.
K850
http://www.mobile-review.com/[....]photo/compare-flash/k850-1.jpg
N82
http://www.mobile-review.com/[....]/photo/compare-flash/n82-1.jpg |
C905
Joined: Jul 08, 2007
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very good review, indeed :lol
eldar is totally confused, he's saying that k850 only records video in QCIF 15 fps and that there is no lens cover a reliable review, indeed |
carlosc22
Joined: Jun 25, 2007
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Excelents comparation betwen k850 vs n82..i like the k850..but i prefer the n82 ..
carlos..--__ N0kI@ - CoNn3C+iNg Pe0pL3__--.. |
razec
Joined: Aug 20, 2006
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From: Pearl of the Orient Seas
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Then i think you should also open up your eyes to the thing i was pinpointing just look at the links you provided earlier and tell me it's not blurry and compressed 
Anyway did eldar posted flash pics taken from N82 from a distance similar to the one provided by the sites you've provided earlier
and anyway i like your primitive approach of diverting attention from the point i want to be cleared out. after showing us some links and bragging out that your N82 ruled K850 flash pics and after then someone queries his observation then you diverted his attention to look at the other thing to complement your arguments and abandoning your earlier claims without a more defined and justifiable statements to answer.
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apotts
Joined: Aug 27, 2003
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Then i think you should also open up your eyes to the thing i was pinpointing just look at the links you provided earlier and tell me it's not blurry and compressed
Are you having trouble with your eyes?
My 850 is as blurry as the one in the comparison test:
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apotts
Joined: Aug 27, 2003
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Incidentally, if you take that hideous blurry photo from the K850 I just posted above, and shrink it to 800 x 600 like Plank does to demonstrate his love of SE, then this is what you get:
Just goes to show you can't evaluate the camera from an 800 x 600 shrink down. |
MWEB
Joined: Feb 13, 2005
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Anything less than a link to a full size pic is a complete waste of time in so far as making any judgements regarding quality.
K850i is by some huge margin the worst of the 5mp cams, it's about time some people took that fact on board, however hard they might find it to swallow!!
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razec
Joined: Aug 20, 2006
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From: Pearl of the Orient Seas
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On 2008-02-02 11:27:09, apotts wrote:
Then i think you should also open up your eyes to the thing i was pinpointing just look at the links you provided earlier and tell me it's not blurry and compressed
Are you having trouble with your eyes?
My 850 is as blurry as the one in the comparison test:
I am not having trouble with my eyes but you as well same as Mib are trying to show me M-R while i'm pinpointing at the blurry shots on the earlier links that mib provided. i wanted an explanation about that over compression and blurriness that N82 flash pics render and you persist to show me that M-R K850 vs N82 i am not saying that K850 pics are not blurry but the constant blindness(you and mib) to answer my earlier query that why does N82 flash pics in that site were very blurry is a deliberate diversion to the main thing i was pointing. fair enough if you wont answer me, i just want an definite reply and i don't really want to start any arguments anymore.
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infinity_gx
Joined: Aug 27, 2007
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On 2008-02-01 15:07:30, k850 successor wrote:
very good review, indeed :lol
eldar is totally confused, he's saying that k850 only records video in QCIF 15 fps and that there is no lens cover a reliable review, indeed
Hello, this must be a type on Eldar's part it reads QVGA up to 30 FPS in the Russian version of the review, and I probably missed this update while I was translating the N82 review. Sorry for that, we will rectify it right away.
By the way, as regards the K850i's lens cover - Eldar meant exactly a conventional one (in other words, external), which the K850i doesn't have (its lens cover, in fact, does absolutely nothing, since the glass finish used on the rear side gets scratched and scuffed anyway)
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kenoby
Joined: Dec 17, 2007
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I am sure it doesn't scuff or scratch. Have one for the past one and a half month and do not see any reason to judge like that, except if it is judged based on site's experience during some longer time of usage, like some hard test or whatever. Like he commented I would call it "a personal preference".
I also like very much N82, so don't mind, that is just a comment. I believe M R is a good site and that you have good writers, I visit you often.
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SilveR.
Joined: May 03, 2002
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Some pics N82 looks better and some K850 better.. but seriously I won't get any of them to replace my camera right now.. And I think K850 has much stronger flash than N82.
N82 Design looks terrible.. and K850 looks little better..
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