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plankgatan
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it dosent mather.. T650 will never (ever) produce better indoor pics, (with flash or whitout flash).... its techical impossible
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Radiux399
Joined: Sep 06, 2007
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On 2008-03-26 01:38:40, plankgatan wrote:
it dosent mather.. T650 will never (ever) produce better indoor pics, (with flash or whitout flash).... its techical impossible
If you say so.
Are you going to post the full 5 megapixel image from your K850? |
jigonx
Joined: Oct 16, 2007
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plankgatan will never post his full res 5 Mpx pic. he just afraid...hahaha. |
jigonx
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On 2008-03-26 01:38:40, plankgatan wrote:
.... its techical impossible
FYI, K770/T650 has bigger lense diameter than K850.
K770/T650 --> 1,92 mm (4,8 mm focal length, f/stop = 2,5)
K850 --> 1,85 mm (5,18 mm focal length, f/stop = 2,8)
that's mean, K770/T650 can collects light better than K850.
with bigger Mpx (5Mpx) but same sensor size as K800, K850 will always use lower ISO setting than K770/T650 at default camera settings..
this mean K850 will have darker pic than K770/T650.. |
plankgatan
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do you really think i meant about the lens (if its now true or not)
i of course mean about the sensor.... T650 will never produce sharper, more details on indoor pics BECUASE of its sensor....k850 sensor handle less light, etc MUCH easier..(how hard can it be)
ps... i post full size pics very often, so please come with something new.. (about this picture, i have allready shrink it one time, so i cant show you in full size, otherwise i should easily show you).
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Amras
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On 2008-03-26 01:34:43, Radiux399 wrote:
The K850 has a lot of advantages when it comes to indoors photography - xenon flash, image stabilization, and a larger aperture which allows more light in.
However, its biggest downfall is that it simply has too much noise, especially when the ISO ramps up and the noise reduction tries to compensate. You get that blurry mess that I posted above. This should NOT come as a surprise to you, because if you really do own a K850, then you would see this noise suppression on every single one of your shots when viewed at 100%. If you shrink the picture down then it becomes less apparent sure, but you didn't buy a 5mp camera to view your pictures at 800x600, now did you?
I agree with this one.
But actually, that suppression don't really appear in outdoor pics, when the lighting is bright (either outdoors or indoors).
I think, according to your sentence, the suppression appears as the act of some noise reduction. And unfortunately, it's not acting well when you're taking low light indoor pics.
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Vipera ammodytes
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On 2008-03-26 01:38:40, plankgatan wrote:
it dosent mather.. T650 will never (ever) produce better indoor pics, (with flash or whitout flash).... its techical impossible
quote from Abu.
A common tactic by politicians in the West is to repeat lies often enough until people start believing them. Seems that some people try the same tactic while posting online...
(about this picture, i have allready shrink it one time, so i cant show you in full size, otherwise i should easily show you).
"good old" answer
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Coquito
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On 2008-03-26 01:34:43, Radiux399 wrote:
.. but you didn't buy a 5mp camera to view your pictures at 800x600, now did you?
hehe I did
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AbuBasim
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On 2008-03-26 11:35:12, plankgatan wrote:
i of course mean about the sensor.... T650 will never produce sharper, more details on indoor pics BECUASE of its sensor....k850 sensor handle less light, etc MUCH easier..(how hard can it be)
How do you know this? Do you have the specs for the sensor used in the T650? Or is this just something you "know" because you are in love with your K850i?
I would be interested to know if the Samsung sensor used in the T650 and K770 phones are of the same tiny size as in the K850. To have the same poor sensitivity as the IMX020 in the K850, the Samsung sensor would have to be extremely small: 1/3.2". If it on the other hand it is of the same size as the K850's sensor, 1/2.8", then each cell would be 50 percent larger and therefore the T650/K770 would much more sensitive than than the K850. That would explain why there's so much less noise in photos from those phones compared to the K850. That would also explain why the camera module is protruding from the T650's body as it is too large to fit inside entirely.
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plankgatan
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he he he... ok, the only T650 pictures who looks super good comes from ONE phone, the rest of the pictures (all around the world) looks "normal" for T650.....how can it be like that ????
so yes, i KNOW that T650 will NEVER produce stunning indoor pics....i just look at them, and then release thats a fact.
i would be very glad if someone could show me that T650 who took this skiing/flower pictures, (it must be awesome T650 )
ps.. i really give a shit about my k850, im just curious about this pictures...thats all
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AbuBasim
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On 2008-03-27 07:50:23, plankgatan wrote:
ps.. i really give a shit about my k850, im just curious about this pictures...thats all
That's all? You're always so quick to defend your phone whenever anyone says that some other model is better... 
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plankgatan
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Abu... maybe it can appear like that sometimes, ... BUT honestley, I DONT CARE ABOUT MY K850 HERE.....
im just VERY curious how its possible for a T650 to get this quality...(im not some rookie who took my first photograph today you know)
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jigonx
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On 2008-03-27 07:50:23, plankgatan wrote:
so yes, i KNOW that T650 will NEVER produce stunning indoor pics....i just look at them, and then release thats a fact.
i would be very glad if someone could show me that T650 who took this skiing/flower pictures, (it must be awesome T650 )
how about this.., taken with my K770 + R8BA original taiwan camdriver
K770 uses same camera module as T650
document mode
macro
indoor... and this what i call RED
plank, as a photographer, u must know that a good pic not always depends on the camera, but more depends on the user's skill it self;)
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soane28
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On 2008-03-27 07:50:23, plankgatan wrote:
he he he... ok, the only T650 pictures who looks super good comes from ONE phone, the rest of the pictures (all around the world) looks "normal" for T650.....how can it be like that ????
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-03-27 07:03 ]
Thats how it was when people got the K850 - your shots looked better than everyone elses and now people are working out the camera and theres better shots from alot of other K850s.
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jigonx
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if u want to see the original 3Mpx size of my picture above, u can get it here | |
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