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Wuz
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Joined: Nov 01, 2002
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Posted: 2002-12-05 03:26
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Olliedeakin - I didn't mean to come across in a harsh manner - what do I know?

Its just I feel that the way forward is a raising of awareness among everybody and the ensuing collective effort which will reap rewards. Sure your idea might propel a few to donate large sums... but nothing like the money that would be raised if every member donated just $1.
vwbeetle
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Posted: 2002-12-05 03:33
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@laffen we in the phils who buy at ebay use bidpay not paypal but i think bidpay only accepts payment for auctions and i think they also use western union so for us w.u. Is probably the way to go but we need names and addresses for that

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adamizer
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Joined: Sep 29, 2002
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Posted: 2002-12-05 03:34
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Yes. Ur missing the point. We need too pull together not apart. I dont see the point in who gave the most thats just sick. If all put some in it would be great but u cant ask of people to give what might be to much for them...

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adamizer
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Posted: 2002-12-05 03:43
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@wuz... I was thinkin of vid space we use when we post. But ur right. Memberfees would be more equal.

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Raven
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Posted: 2002-12-05 03:44
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Yeah, i agree with wuz too. A competition about who can raise the most money, might just hurt this contribution campaign. And i don't really think it's fair, nor in the esato spirit.

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olliedeakin
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Joined: Oct 22, 2002
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Posted: 2002-12-05 03:49
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Point taken, awareness is the key.

laffen
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Joined: Aug 07, 2001
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Posted: 2002-12-05 08:57
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Total amount is now $363.80 and 15 members has donated since the 3rd.

Some of you are looking for other ways of contribute and Western Union was suggested. But WU does not cover Norway, so this is not possible. Send me a PM, and I'll give you my bank details.
vwbeetle
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Posted: 2002-12-05 09:18
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@members from the philippines

i opened a new thread at the "regional/asia pacific" regarding my suggestion for donations to esato. check it out
arnoldc
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Joined: Dec 14, 2001
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Posted: 2002-12-05 09:29
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laffen, i'll organize the philippine efforts on our end. please PM me your details.

also, let me know if we should proceed with my alternative proposal. shoot me up an email at the email address i gave in my PM to you please.
EricSony
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Joined: Nov 05, 2001
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Posted: 2002-12-05 10:10
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15$ is on it's way. Kinda weird to send $ (instead of NOK) to someone who lives in the same country,but still hope this will help! Been following this site since early 2001,and it has helped me alot,also in my work

Keep donating!!!!

Regards from former Ericsson support worker.

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T68iFan
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Joined: Oct 18, 2002
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Posted: 2002-12-05 10:59
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largepig
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Joined: Nov 18, 2002
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Posted: 2002-12-05 11:06
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Hey people.

Has anybody who has sent mails, recieved any back from SE?

Anyone who hasn't donated ( and has the ability to do so ) should be feeling very guilty!
Black Cat
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Joined: Oct 21, 2002
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Posted: 2002-12-05 11:55
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how are we doing laffen?
they don't make them like they used to
gazobee
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Joined: Apr 03, 2002
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Posted: 2002-12-05 11:55
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Laffen,

Some people may not agree with this, but when did you ever get anything worth having for free?

I would suggest you make Esato a paysite.
Charge $1/month for access. There are now in excess of 10,000 registered Esato members. If a 1/3 of these subscribe then you are most of the way to finding the $4000 dollars a month you need.

The nice thing about that is that for each member it is only $12/year. Hardly likely to break the bank for any of us. You can keep asking for donations and if you get the same response that you have had so far it will be gone in a couple of weeks anyway.

Then you can investigate advertising to make up the shortfall.
If the number of people who want to pay is less than currently required you will have driven down traffic by making it a paysite anyway. It should meet your needs as far as keeping the site alive.

I know you feel that something like this should be free for all to use. If the economics allowed it then that would be a fantastic idea. They don't, you are skint and will have to close it soon. So bite the bullet and charge for the content.

K
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largepig
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Posted: 2002-12-05 11:59
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I agree.
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