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SE failing in producing good phones? |
max_wedge
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On 2007-05-21 17:01:46, mweb6161 wrote:
Some very good stuff written above by all concerned, but the golden rule is, Never expect everyone to have the same, needs,wants,desires in a mobile as oneself.
Never be dogmatic (or stupid) enough to believe that ONE brand holds ALL the answers.
Honestly after years of running the biggest multi-brand forum in the world experiance has tought me there is nothing more sad and annoying than a brand fanatic who ALWAYS just sees ONE side of the coin!!.
We can and should appreciate and understand one anothers points of view!!
Good point, well said. And thanks everyone for letting me rant, I'll shut up for a while 
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sapporobaby
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On 2007-05-21 17:03:12, max_wedge wrote:
On 2007-05-21 17:01:46, mweb6161 wrote:
Some very good stuff written above by all concerned, but the golden rule is, Never expect everyone to have the same, needs,wants,desires in a mobile as oneself.
Never be dogmatic (or stupid) enough to believe that ONE brand holds ALL the answers.
Honestly after years of running the biggest multi-brand forum in the world experiance has tought me there is nothing more sad and annoying than a brand fanatic who ALWAYS just sees ONE side of the coin!!.
We can and should appreciate and understand one anothers points of view!!
Good point, well said. And thanks everyone for letting me rant, I'll shut up for a while
Max,
I'm upset you don't respect me. 
I want my virtual beer back. :
*edited on a Mac of course. Mac: There is no substitute*
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plankgatan
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most doorky thread i ever read. SE makes QUALITY, and also pure style.......................
k810i Rules ! |
sapporobaby
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On 2007-05-22 01:01:49, plankgatan wrote:
most doorky thread i ever read. SE makes QUALITY, and also pure style.......................
k810i Rules !
Wait. Were we issued invitations to read this thread?
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max_wedge
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Don't worry Sapporobaby, I respect you too, but I think of you as more a MAC fanboy than a Nokia fanboy. That's why I didn't think to mention you.
You are getting there, but you have a long way to go to equal MIB's ardent Nokia evangelism. 
Respect!
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sapporobaby
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On 2007-05-22 13:44:03, max_wedge wrote:
Don't worry Sapporobaby, I respect you too, but I think of you as more a MAC fanboy than a Nokia fanboy. That's why I didn't think to mention you.
You are getting there, but you have a long way to go to equal MIB's ardent Nokia evangelism.
Respect!
Your the bomb dude. Consider your virtual beer re-instated.
*edited on a Mac of course. Mac: There is no substitute*
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KingBooker5
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We all have proberly heard of Sofia the supposed 5mp dream gadget. But from what I heard it will be out in 2009! Why would SE do this if there biggest rivel nokia release one this year? The natural thing to do would be to retaliate and release there own 5mp model, but instead they wait 2 years! 2 years is like 20 years in the world of technology, by then nokia will proberly have a 10mp model out! Also the specs on this so called "sofia" which I will add hasnt been confirmed a fact yet are very dissapointing. The only step up from k800/10 is a better camera.
What do the rest of you guys think of this? |
JuanPablo
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SE makes the best phones IMO |
KingBooker5
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Not at this momment in time. |
sapporobaby
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On 2007-05-25 17:38:23, JuanPablo wrote:
SE makes the best phones IMO
Apples and oranges dude.
it all comes down to taste.
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sapporobaby
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On 2007-05-25 17:27:41, KingBooker5 wrote:
The natural thing to do would be to retaliate and release there own 5mp model, but instead they wait 2 years! 2 years is like 20 years in the world of technology, by then nokia will proberly have a 10mp model out!
1. In many cases megapixels do not really matter. Most people can not tell the difference.
2. A 10 megapixel in many cases is no better than a 5 megapixel camera. You just have more megapixels to play with.
3. The sensor in a digital camera is what really makes it special, and there is no way Nokia or SE is going to put a $500 sensor in a phone.
Now for the fun part. SE has been promising and promising. I do not know who to blame more, Sony or Ericsson for the abortion that is SE. Their current crop of phones validates my switching from SE to Nokia.
*edited on a Mac of course. Mac: There is no substitute*
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KingBooker5
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On 2007-05-25 20:13:10, sapporobaby wrote:
On 2007-05-25 17:27:41, KingBooker5 wrote:
The natural thing to do would be to retaliate and release there own 5mp model, but instead they wait 2 years! 2 years is like 20 years in the world of technology, by then nokia will proberly have a 10mp model out!
1. In many cases megapixels do not really matter. Most people can not tell the difference.
2. A 10 megapixel in many cases is no better than a 5 megapixel camera. You just have more megapixels to play with.
3. The sensor in a digital camera is what really makes it special, and there is no way Nokia or SE is going to put a $500 sensor in a phone.
Now for the fun part. SE has been promising and promising. I do not know who to blame more, Sony or Ericsson for the abortion that is SE. Their current crop of phones validates my switching from SE to Nokia.
What do you mean more megapixels to play with sapporobaby? |
londonlad123
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@sap
What kinda specs are you expecting from se. Give us a spec list that would satisfy you? |
sapporobaby
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On 2007-05-25 20:20:38, KingBooker5 wrote:
On 2007-05-25 20:13:10, sapporobaby wrote:
On 2007-05-25 17:27:41, KingBooker5 wrote:
The natural thing to do would be to retaliate and release there own 5mp model, but instead they wait 2 years! 2 years is like 20 years in the world of technology, by then nokia will proberly have a 10mp model out!
1. In many cases megapixels do not really matter. Most people can not tell the difference.
2. A 10 megapixel in many cases is no better than a 5 megapixel camera. You just have more megapixels to play with.
3. The sensor in a digital camera is what really makes it special, and there is no way Nokia or SE is going to put a $500 sensor in a phone.
Now for the fun part. SE has been promising and promising. I do not know who to blame more, Sony or Ericsson for the abortion that is SE. Their current crop of phones validates my switching from SE to Nokia.
What do you mean more megapixels to play with sapporobaby?
More megapixels are many times a marketing plow. More always sounds better but in reality this is not always the case. By telling you that you have more, you think you are getting better.
Example. A 5 megapixel Nikon will have superior picture quality than my 5 megapixels N95. It is a matter of physics.
*edited on a Mac of course. Mac: There is no substitute*
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sapporobaby
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On 2007-05-25 20:24:09, londonlad123 wrote:
@sap
What kinda specs are you expecting from se. Give us a spec list that would satisfy you?
Pick any SE phone that compares to the N95, or N93i for that matter (maybe the P990). Maybe some Apple support. SE has stated that they have NO intention of supporting Macs, while Nokia is embracing the Mac community.
As I have said, time and time again. This is all subjective anyway. What may be a killer app for you, is a waste for me. So my "list" is subjective. I like the N95 feature list, as well as the Mac support it has. This is a good place to start.
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