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Bambino
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Posted: 2007-04-13 06:59
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I dont like two keypad sharing one space. Design!
CrazyGuns
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Posted: 2007-04-13 07:06
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i really cannot wait for this phone! m610i is looking tonnes better than the p990 with awesome features! and i hope they release it by june its awesome!
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Posted: 2007-04-13 07:32
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@Doctorpor
Do you know anything about Lizzy then? Seems to have disappeared.

And I don't know why some of you are convinced that the M600 design is unusable.

The rocker style keys are better than the P990's keys IMO. The P990's keys have been said to be way too small; the M600 has a better design for a relatively narrow QWERTY smartphone. And the P990 design overall is a little outdated for today's market; it's moving towards designs like the M600 - more Blackberry style.
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remirez
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Posted: 2007-04-13 09:29
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Hi,

A quick question, am I the only one who read somewhere that there might be an announcement on the 14th April (tomorrow)?

Tomorrow being a saturday, does any of you happen to know if SE has made annoucement on a Saturday before? If not then, I guess it xon't happen. Saturday is usually footie/shopping day, nobody not even me has time for a phone to be announced (yep even for this one).

PS: I'm happy they focus on a M600 kind of design rather than the bulky P990 design. I like to keep my pockets small.

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Posted: 2007-04-13 09:43
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@shaliron
*Hear say*: Yesterday I heard that test-samples of Lizzy were sent to operators for testing purposes. Shortly after SE recalled them all and the Lizzy dissappeard from the roadmaps.

When I played with the Pxxxi phone, it seemd remarkably stable to me. Built quality was excellent. My guess is that it will be announced this month. At least I hope so, because I see no reason why SE would sit on a nearly finished product any longer.

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Posted: 2007-04-13 11:09
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On 2007-04-13 06:59:00, nokiamaniax wrote:
I dont like two keypad sharing one space. Design!


The M600i's keypad design is revolutionary, and quite brilliant - I hope SE have some good strong patents on it. If you spend some time using one, you'll see why conventional qwerty's (such as the P990's) just aren't needed anymore.

I can easily see the M-series taking over from the P-series as the leading smartphone line... if they can cram it with the right features (as apparently they have) that combination with this form factor will be hard to beat. It's offering something that many consider an absolute necessity (a useable qwerty keyboard) in a package that's smaller, neater, and cheaper to make than any of the alternatives.
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Posted: 2007-04-13 12:50
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DocTorpor, are there any negatives apart from the LED flash problem? Sounds like a very postive device so far : )
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Posted: 2007-04-13 13:09
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On 2007-04-13 09:43:26, DocTorpor wrote:
@shaliron
*Hear say*: Yesterday I heard that test-samples of Lizzy were sent to operators for testing purposes. Shortly after SE recalled them all and the Lizzy dissappeard from the roadmaps. Source: someone responsible for new device introductions.

When I played with the Pxxxi phone, it seemd remarkably stable to me. Built quality was excellent. My guess is that it will be announced this month. At least I hope so, because I see no reason why SE would sit on a nearly finished product any longer.

do you mean by Pxxx another mobile or same as the photoshoped one?
did you happened to know anything about the version of it ?
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Posted: 2007-04-13 13:10
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On 2007-04-13 09:43:26, DocTorpor wrote:
@shaliron
*Hear say*: Yesterday I heard that test-samples of Lizzy were sent to operators for testing purposes. Shortly after SE recalled them all and the Lizzy dissappeard from the roadmaps. Source: someone responsible for new device introductions.

When I played with the Pxxxi phone, it seemd remarkably stable to me. Built quality was excellent. My guess is that it will be announced this month. At least I hope so, because I see no reason why SE would sit on a nearly finished product any longer.


two things I can comment
1. somebody made some fatal mistake and deserves to be sacked
2. I don't recommend referring phones by their so-called code names, the system will be shuffled a bit, they're used to create confusion intentionally.
DocTorpor
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Posted: 2007-04-13 13:10
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I haven't played with the test-sample long enough to find anything negative.
I like my M600i a lot, but I love this new phone now. I've noticed improvements on almost every niggle I have with my M600i.

If I have to be a nitpick:
- I hoped for a slightly larger battery
- The new model is somewhat heavier than the M600i and 1-2mm thicker (no wonder: metal body and many added features). It wouldn't fit in my car holder.
- I couldn't find any proof of HSDPA in the sample
- The screen surface is still very shiny and susceptible to greasy finger stains

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remirez
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Posted: 2007-04-13 13:13
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Just to add a bit of spices to all this rumours, here is what I found on the
se-nse.com forum:

guys, it seems m610 wonīt have uiq 3.1 after all but a newer version o UIQ based on symbian 9.3 (like s60 v3 sp2)

and this is not the only thing were this new OS will be in...some older stuff also eh eh



When I asked the guy how he knew that, he replied

you have to talk to the right people, thatīs how, and check the info by asking the same question to several sources

so i ask anyone with contacts on SE to dig deeper, and by the way, check what is gonna happen in R6 firmware of P990...its related with the above


Link to the forum:
http://forums.se-nse.net/inde[....]howtopic=8458&st=120&start=120

@Doc was the GUI on the prototype close to the M600i one or was it entirely different? I don't pretend to know much about phone OS's but I think if there was a bit of Symbian in the next Pxxx, the GUI would be different from what we know.
DocTorpor
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Posted: 2007-04-13 13:31
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@xumdeo
What do you mean by remark no.1? Who should be sacked? Me, for telling you what I heard?

@remirez
The GUI was identical to the latest FW on my M600i.
The only enhancements were to the Today-screen. I could turn it off entirely (no Today-menu and no shortcut-icons). The other nice feature was that there was room for 15(!) shortcuts to applications on the standby-screen instead of 5. By default 5 were shown, but after clicking on an icon the icons shifted up to show two new lines that could hold 5 shortcuts each (15 in total)
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Posted: 2007-04-13 13:41
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On 2007-04-13 13:31:01, DocTorpor wrote:
@xumdeo
What do you mean by remark no.1? Who should be sacked? Me, for telling you what I heard?




yes i think thats what xumdeo meant.....
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Posted: 2007-04-13 14:11
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No-one should be sacked.

These are still only rumours guys, until the official announcements from these should all be taken with a pinch of salt.
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Posted: 2007-04-13 14:14
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@ DocTorpor, I'll try to update the design when I find the time again. Btw, what can you tell us about the camera UI?! Is it more like the P990i, or like the Walkman phones, or maybe the same as the K810i?!

Btw... I think Xumdeo was talking about someone within SE that made a mistake which resulted in the removal of Lizzy from the Roadmap.

DocTorpor, is it by accident called P700i?!

- http://wap.sonyericsson.com/UAProf/P700iR100.xml

Or is it the M610i (or is that Lizzy?)

- http://wap.sonyericsson.com/UAProf/M610iR100.xml

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