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camelboy
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Posted: 2005-06-17 15:12
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I'm considering these two phones, but stand back for the über-n00b question I'm about to ask...

What is "smartphone" and "Symbian Serie 60"?

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camelboy
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Posted: 2005-06-18 09:37
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Bump.

Anyone?
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numb
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Posted: 2005-06-18 10:01
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symbian series 60 are what you might call the operating system running on the phone, symbian is used by both nokia and sony ericsson Pxxx phones, but in different versions, series 60 is the version running on some nokia phones. Smartphones are phones running an "open" operating system like for instance symbian or windows mobile, operating systems that will allow third party developers to develop new applications that can be installed on the phone.

K750 is not a smartphone, it does not run any open operating system which will allow new applications to be installed, it runs on a static operating system contained in the firmware. It only supports Java applications which have limitations in what they can do. New functionality has to be written into the firmware by the manufacturer.

Smartphones have the advantage of being able to add new thirdparty applications, but are generally slower in operating (atleast the nokia series 60 are) compared to non smartphones. They also have the disadvantage of being able to receive virus, which is not possible on a non smartphone.

One cannot say that smartphones performs better in itself, usually non smartphones actually performs better because the operating system are smaller, faster, and their functions are optimised for their purpose, while smarphones operating systems are like windows, bigger, slower, memoryhugging, etc. , but on smartphones you will be able to add better functions thorugh thirdparty applications that maybe fits your needs better than the static functions of a non smartphone.

Therefore its a matter of what you need from your phone, many people automatically state that smartphones is better but never consider the fact that they may never install a single new application on it. In fact by far most smartphone buyers doesnt know they bought a smarphone and never use it as such. They just bought a phone and only use it in its standard form, which is often not better than a non smartphone.

brix25
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Posted: 2005-06-18 10:09
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@numb... Good explanation there. You're right, many people using smartphones hardly use any of their functions.

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camelboy
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Posted: 2005-06-19 12:56
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Thanks very much for that numb, very helpful. Cheers.
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JohnM
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Posted: 2005-06-19 14:26
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And smartphones generally have better in-built browsers that allow you to view the majority of html pages, also the fact that symbian is an open OS, you can install great browsers like Opera or Netfront.

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lazn
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Posted: 2005-06-19 20:31
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also smartphones have a terible battery life !!!!
paro
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Posted: 2005-06-19 20:48
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I have both phones and like them both for various reasons. For example, last week I installed a navigation program on the Nokia and connected it to a bluetooth GPS receives to use in my car. Worked a charm :-) But on my vacation to Spain I use the K750i because of the better camera. Good luck in choosing m8 :-) Cheers /paro

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camelboy
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Posted: 2005-06-24 00:44
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I can see the benefits of the smartphone option, but personally they are not what I am looking for in a phone, so if it slows down normal operation as well, then K750i it is for me. Thanks again to all for your wisdom.
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ThreeX
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Posted: 2005-06-24 00:59
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IMO (and experience) Symbian= OS on Valium..
Give me a proper phone and a PDA any day of the week! Or at least a Windows mobile smartphone with a decent CPU.
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Posted: 2005-06-24 02:22
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Quote:
On 2005-06-19 20:31:34, lazn wrote: also smartphones have a terible battery life !!!!

Not necessarily my friend. The N-gage qd, Which is a smartphone has excellent battery life! I dunno about other nokias, but i am sure about this phone!
T230 >> T610 >> Ngage QD >> N73 >> N85 >> Omnia HD >> And countless other review units
lazn
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Posted: 2005-06-24 05:54
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coz n-gage qd is more simple ... i mean ... it's a smart phone BUT !
the version of the OS is very old ... plus ... it's a phone with almost no features ... & the CPU is very weak & this phone is functioning like S40 phones .... it has no special things, like .. better CPU & bigger OS .. like hte 3230 &etc....
that's why this phone is alot faster ...
whizkidd
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Posted: 2005-06-24 07:55
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Can't agree with you there mate. Remember that the ngage is a gaming device. The graphics capability of this phone is excellent. And as far as the operating system is considered, i really don't think it affects battery performance that much. And with a 105 mhz processor, its far from being sluggish. The only power-saving feature i can think of is its (excellent) 4096 color screen. It lasts for 12 hours (continuous usage) without charging.
T230 >> T610 >> Ngage QD >> N73 >> N85 >> Omnia HD >> And countless other review units
Supa_Fly
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Posted: 2005-06-24 08:06
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Whizz is right the Qd is powerful but still limited in few ways. However, if you want that battery life just purchase the bl6 battery that the QD uses and voila no battery life issues. Thats what in gonna do this week with my 6620!
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Posted: 2005-06-24 08:24
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Ya man! But when comparing the 3230 to anything scrap that phone. Buttons for calls and menu, edit and clear are very hard 2 press. Nokia should fire the designer of that phone. One major thing holding me back from the k750 is the "h " designation. My wife has the 700 and when visiting family in rural areas it gets no signal. I need the 850mhz band. North America.
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