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Ayush
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Posted: 2004-09-02 08:37
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I suspected so ;-)

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kimcheeboi
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Posted: 2004-09-02 08:41
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On 2004-09-02 08:24:54, Vlammetje wrote:
k now i have read it. And no it does nt make me right. Nor do I imply that i am the one without sin. I most definitely am not. But i don't go crying to the powers that be when I am confronted!! if fact I don't even do that when I'm offended but I see it as sufficient to tell the person in question. I only do that when I feel I really cannot defend myself against outright abuse.



But you have the right to. If you wanted to, could you not talk to masseur or tranquil or any of the other mods? So why can't jn do that?

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Now I fear you may not exactly know what I am on about and that is fine. After all it is not your behaviour I questioned, it is jojo's and he is quite capabel of defending himself. Now let's hope I can understand his reply


Need I repeat myself about personal attacks? And what the forum rules say about personal attacks? (If we really want to be that anal)


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My point is.... what goes around comes around. If you ruffle people up, like I do at times.. you've got to expect a few blows coming your way. When they do...... I tend to think it's a matter of 'grin and bear it'. Only when things spin out of control I would get help...... which indeed I have done on occassions


Yeah, I don't whine either, but I'm tired of your incessant personal attacks @ JN. THAT is unnecessary. Why not PM him when you feel that he is annoying, and then try to resolve the situation in that manner instead of trashing him publicly?

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Again... this is all my personal opinion on matters that aren't my business to begin with. And the fact that I brak my own rules by discussing them out in the open anyway should give jojo an indication of just how strongly I feel about it.

Hope that satisfies your questions in some sort of way.



FYI if you break your own rules, well, the situation must be severe! I mean, I'm 17 (yet a relatively immature age) , and I know there's rules I never break, no matter what, and I don't make exceptions. So, I can understand the intensity of your feelings on the subject.

However, we are informed that this is your opinion. Do we go around forcing our opinions on other people? I think not. In fact, I think that has something to do with why i was banned!

So if we feel that our opinions are SO right that we can't help railing at others to conform to THE ONLY RIGHT OPINION!!!! then... wait... something's wrong here!

opinion. That's your personal views on something, and just as jn doesn't try to convert you to christianity (and therefore respects your beliefs), how come you don't have to respect him?

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There she goes just walkin down the street,
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What the fuss is all about.

Just as i would accomplish nothing (except for a ban perhaps ) by calling you a "drug riddled amsterdam prostitute," I hope you will refrain from insulting either my or jn's intelligence. Please!

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Vlammetje
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Posted: 2004-09-02 09:03
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ok


I can see where our opinions differ. I attack not the person... but the behaviour of this forum. At least that's what I had in mind. I don't believe I called either you or anybody a drugg ridden idiot. in fact I don't think I called anybody an idiot at all.

However I can se ethe discussion is rather pointless...... as you are right... my opinion is by no means the only truth out there. And it is not one that you are willing to consider... so perhaps we should end this right here and now
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Posted: 2004-09-02 09:14
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Could you guys stop flaming eachother and stay on topic! I don't come to this forum to hear you guys whining about stuff that is in the past. Give the guy a break. Lets stay on topic.

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Posted: 2004-09-02 09:17
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On 2004-09-02 09:03:37, Vlammetje wrote:
ok


I can see where our opinions differ. I attack not the person... but the behaviour of this forum. At least that's what I had in mind. I don't believe I called either you or anybody a drugg ridden idiot. in fact I don't think I called anybody an idiot at all.

However I can se ethe discussion is rather pointless...... as you are right... my opinion is by no means the only truth out there. And it is not one that you are willing to consider... so perhaps we should end this right here and now




The point of this thread is to ask users such as you to stop trashing @JN publicly. You've given your reasons for it: and I asked whether you can limit that to PMs. You still haven't answered my question, so no we do not just stop right where we are.

I do indeed consider your opinion a valid one, as I myslef dislike seeing tons of smilies on WAP or sometimes posts that i have to really look into to understand. However, I will repeat:

I ask you to stop your harassment of JN publicly. You are entitled to take up the issue with him privately but I am tired of seeing your posts criticizing any member that you don't feel is up to par with your standards.

And what's this about you only criticizing the behavior of the board? Then why are the personal barbs, aimed at specific users, necessary?

All I want is for you accept or reject my proposal that JN stop being harassed by esato members because its seems as if he is of less intelligence than you are.

I'm tired of this, and if you insist on pestering jn then I will be right there.


And perhaps jn feels that he can't handle your pestering anymore? Why should he have the same mental fortitude (if i can put it that way) as you or any other member? So if he feels as is he is being overly harassed to the point where he can't handle it, then he is free to do as he chooses. [addsig]
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On 2004-09-02 09:14:09, JohnN4 wrote:
Could you guys stop flaming eachother and stay on topic! I don't come to this forum to hear you guys whining about stuff that is in the past. Give the guy a break. Lets stay on topic.



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You obviously have not been reading the thread carefully. I'm trying to stop users from repeating what they have done to anopther user. That's my topic, and I am having a debate, not a flame war, with another user on the issue. [addsig]
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@kim: Errrrrr... nobody said he was stupid, its a running joke about his gross overuse of smilies. Maybe if you hadnt got yourself BANNED you would have been there when these things were said, and the spirit they were said in.

Have you actually read the bible? Where in the bible does it mention Hell? It doesnt. Nowhere. Anywhere. It talks of "Gehenna, the fiery waste". Gehenna was the rubbish tip outside Jerusalem (i think it was jerusalem anyway, may be wrong) where they burned all their dead animals. So it means you will die, not go to Hell. Its all about symbolism. Modern religion has built itself on Heaven and Hell. The bible doesnt say this. It says if you believe you will be resurrected, not to heaven, but to a new "paradise earth", and if dont, you will just plain die, no Hellfire, no eternal damnation!!

p.s. I aint into religion, i just check things out before i make a decision.
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Posted: 2004-09-02 10:20
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But he must have READ the threads

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tis not said outright but its been implied by quite a few members!

anyways my point is lets stop harassing him about his posting style (or at least keep it to PM) because he really seems about to blow a head gasket! (my mom is like that all the time, btw!)

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On 2004-09-02 10:20:39, Ayush wrote:
But he must have READ the threads



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that guy sleeps at the weirdest times...


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On 2004-09-02 10:16:10, methylated_spirit wrote:
@kim: Errrrrr... nobody said he was stupid, its a running joke about his gross overuse of smilies. Maybe if you hadnt got yourself BANNED you would have been there when these things were said, and the spirit they were said in.


Was I banned? I din't know!

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Have you actually read the bible? Where in the bible does it mention Hell? It doesnt. Nowhere. Anywhere. It talks of "Gehenna, the fiery waste". Gehenna was the rubbish tip outside Jerusalem (i think it was jerusalem anyway, may be wrong) where they burned all their dead animals. So it means you will die, not go to Hell. Its all about symbolism. Modern religion has built itself on Heaven and Hell. The bible doesnt say this. It says if you believe you will be resurrected, not to heaven, but to a new "paradise earth", and if dont, you will just plain die, no Hellfire, no eternal damnation!!

p.s. I aint into religion, i just check things out before i make a decision.
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In the Book of Revelations it discusses an "eternal death" or a place of eternal suffering where all "nonbelievers" go.

Mind you, I'm an athiest, but I've been forced to go to church for 16 years! I stopped going about 10 months ago.

oh yeah btw this isnt really a factual dispute because different groups have different views and interpretations of the Bible so we will get nowhere by discussing this
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There she goes just walkin down the street,
and someone lets a whistle out.
A girl like her, she just can't see,
What the fuss is all about.

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ok i'm beginning to get a rough idea why @kim was banned
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@kim what's wrong wit you?! And who sleeps when? Huh

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i think you've hit the nail on the head!


@Ayush--the alcohol has really depleted my brain cell count! my liver isnt working well either, especially after vicodin! (hydrocodone)

Actually its 1.30 and im really really bored writing a damned essay, hoping i could be shooting a game of pool...

I'm gonna go to sleep. Nighty night!



*i think the last time i posted like this i was drunk!



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She don't know she's beautiful
(though time and time I've told her so)
There she goes just walkin down the street,
and someone lets a whistle out.
A girl like her, she just can't see,
What the fuss is all about.

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I sleep at a different time cos i live in SWEDEN! There is a big difference in times from where you live kim...i have a closer time zone to ayush than to you.

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Ayush
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@kim all i can say is !!!

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