Esato

Forum > General discussions > Non mobile discussion > The first Norwegian, or why are we here? or What is the difference between Finnish and Hungarian?

Previous  123  Next
Author The first Norwegian, or why are we here? or What is the difference between Finnish and Hungarian?
kristaga
R520
Joined: Mar 12, 2002
Posts: 141
From: Norig/Norway
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-07-22 11:33
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Eng. - Greek
mother - mitera
father - pateras
one - ena
two - dyo
three - tria
my - mou
star - asteri
grass - grasidi

The similarity is clear. It is because both originate from Indo-European, which is farther back in time than the common ancestor of Finnish and Hungarian, so the similarities of Hungarian and Finnish are probably more frequent. English (and other European languages) has (have) also a lot of newer loan words from Greek:
Examples:
Eng. - Greek.
field - agros (which in English have become the root of agriculture)
politics - politiki
graph - diagrama (which in Egnlish have become diagram)

A linguist would probably know more. I'm just an amateur.

Edit: Vlammetje explained my last point better than me.

[ This Message was edited by: kristaga on 2004-07-22 10:40 ]
BobaFett
R520 copper
Joined: Jan 06, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Kamino (wish it would be Lund)
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-07-22 12:00
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Only japanese and hungarians use family name first and given name as second.

This message was posted from a T630

kristaga
R520
Joined: Mar 12, 2002
Posts: 141
From: Norig/Norway
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-07-22 12:25
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
I think the Chinese also do that. [addsig]
Atlis
P1
Joined: Dec 09, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: European Union
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-07-22 15:49
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
@boba - the question I asked - if you understand finnish was because my girlfriend is hungarian and she is able to understand few words in finnish... Of course not everything, but she does... I was surprised that you said no I don´t...
no cellphone...
BobaFett
R520 copper
Joined: Jan 06, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Kamino (wish it would be Lund)
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-07-22 16:23
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Got u, well, there are some identical words, but thats all. To tell the truth i am more interested for the ujgur connection, a chinese tribal, its where we actually came from and the link to japanese.

This message was posted from a T630

Atlis
P1
Joined: Dec 09, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: European Union
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-07-22 17:01
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Honestly boba I know only few things about your history - Atilla hero...
no cellphone...
Vlammetje
C702 Cyan
Joined: Mar 01, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Den Haag
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-07-22 17:11
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Chinese (and possibly other asians too) do indeed use family names first as well. And sorry for boba, the relation between the japanese and the hungarians is even thinner than that between finnish and hungarians. :-) Pronounciation between hungarian and finnish is so different that I'd be suprised to find they'd be able to have a spoken conversation. Reading a few words might be possible, but I don't think speach is possible for the untrained individual. I knew a Hungarian in Finland. Didn't grasp a word

This message was posted from a Z600

Atlis
P1
Joined: Dec 09, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: European Union
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-07-22 17:21
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
@Vlamm - I see, she isn´t able to speak or understand whole conversation... that was my point
no cellphone...
BobaFett
R520 copper
Joined: Jan 06, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Kamino (wish it would be Lund)
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-07-22 18:03
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Bloodtest by a japanese professor gave very identical result between the 2 nation.

This message was posted from a T630

Vlammetje
C702 Cyan
Joined: Mar 01, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Den Haag
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-07-22 18:08
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Oops wrong post!

[ This Message was edited by: Vlammetje on 2004-07-22 17:31 ]
Vlammetje
C702 Cyan
Joined: Mar 01, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Den Haag
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-07-22 18:38
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Meant to ask you what you mean by 'bloodtest'

Surely ones blood says nothing about ones cultural and linguistic background. So what are you talking about?
Atlis
P1
Joined: Dec 09, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: European Union
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-07-22 18:41
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
@Vlamm - replationship between Hungarians and Japanese
no cellphone...
BobaFett
R520 copper
Joined: Jan 06, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Kamino (wish it would be Lund)
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-07-22 19:15
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
He tested cromosomes, structure of gens, blood etc i was on a very interesting conference of it some years ago.

This message was posted from a T630

kristaga
R520
Joined: Mar 12, 2002
Posts: 141
From: Norig/Norway
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-07-23 01:01
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
As Vlammetje says, common genes don't say anything about the language. As far as I remember is the Finnish people not of Ural-Altaic stock, but they took the language from people living in that area earlier.

Still, it is of course interesting if Hungarians and Japanese share some of the same genes.

Atlis, show your girlfriend the web page I quoted. Maybe interesting for her.

_________________
Einn Hringur ræður þeim öllum, einn skal hann hina finna,
einn skal hann safna þeim öllum og um sinn fjötur spinna.
Úr Hringadróttinssögu Tolkiens

[ This Message was edited by: kristaga on 2004-07-23 00:05 ]
BobaFett
R520 copper
Joined: Jan 06, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Kamino (wish it would be Lund)
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-07-23 01:15
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Its just an apart of the whole story, if i ll have pc gonna post here more details. Language is continualy changing. The hungarian is one of the hardest in the world, contains many segments of different other languages. We came here from the other side of the world and its to recognize in our traditions, cultur, behavour etc the vikings changed many cultures by their oversea visit.

This message was posted from a T630

Access the forum with a mobile phone via esato.mobi