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kristaga Joined: Mar 12, 2002 Posts: 141 From: Norig/Norway PM, WWW
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Eng. - Greek
mother - mitera
father - pateras
one - ena
two - dyo
three - tria
my - mou
star - asteri
grass - grasidi
The similarity is clear. It is because both originate from Indo-European, which is farther back in time than the common ancestor of Finnish and Hungarian, so the similarities of Hungarian and Finnish are probably more frequent. English (and other European languages) has (have) also a lot of newer loan words from Greek:
Examples:
Eng. - Greek.
field - agros (which in English have become the root of agriculture)
politics - politiki
graph - diagrama (which in Egnlish have become diagram)
A linguist would probably know more. I'm just an amateur.
Edit: Vlammetje explained my last point better than me.
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BobaFett Joined: Jan 06, 2004 Posts: > 500 From: Kamino (wish it would be Lund) PM, WWW
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Only japanese and hungarians use family name first and given name as second.
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kristaga Joined: Mar 12, 2002 Posts: 141 From: Norig/Norway PM, WWW
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I think the Chinese also do that.
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Atlis Joined: Dec 09, 2003 Posts: > 500 From: European Union PM, WWW
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@boba - the question I asked - if you understand finnish was because my girlfriend is hungarian and she is able to understand few words in finnish... Of course not everything, but she does... I was surprised that you said no I don´t...
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BobaFett Joined: Jan 06, 2004 Posts: > 500 From: Kamino (wish it would be Lund) PM, WWW
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Got u, well, there are some identical words, but thats all. To tell the truth i am more interested for the ujgur connection, a chinese tribal, its where we actually came from and the link to japanese.
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Atlis Joined: Dec 09, 2003 Posts: > 500 From: European Union PM, WWW
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Honestly boba I know only few things about your history - Atilla hero...
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Vlammetje Joined: Mar 01, 2003 Posts: > 500 From: Den Haag PM, WWW
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Chinese (and possibly other asians too) do indeed use family names first as well.
And sorry for boba, the relation between the japanese and the hungarians is even thinner than that between finnish and hungarians. :-)
Pronounciation between hungarian and finnish is so different that I'd be suprised to find they'd be able to have a spoken conversation. Reading a few words might be possible, but I don't think speach is possible for the untrained individual. I knew a Hungarian in Finland. Didn't grasp a word
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Atlis Joined: Dec 09, 2003 Posts: > 500 From: European Union PM, WWW
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@Vlamm - I see, she isn´t able to speak or understand whole conversation... that was my point
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BobaFett Joined: Jan 06, 2004 Posts: > 500 From: Kamino (wish it would be Lund) PM, WWW
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Bloodtest by a japanese professor gave very identical result between the 2 nation.
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Vlammetje Joined: Mar 01, 2003 Posts: > 500 From: Den Haag PM, WWW
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Oops wrong post!
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Vlammetje Joined: Mar 01, 2003 Posts: > 500 From: Den Haag PM, WWW
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Meant to ask you what you mean by 'bloodtest' Surely ones blood says nothing about ones cultural and linguistic background. So what are you talking about?
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Atlis Joined: Dec 09, 2003 Posts: > 500 From: European Union PM, WWW
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@Vlamm - replationship between Hungarians and Japanese
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BobaFett Joined: Jan 06, 2004 Posts: > 500 From: Kamino (wish it would be Lund) PM, WWW
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He tested cromosomes, structure of gens, blood etc i was on a very interesting conference of it some years ago.
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kristaga Joined: Mar 12, 2002 Posts: 141 From: Norig/Norway PM, WWW
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As Vlammetje says, common genes don't say anything about the language. As far as I remember is the Finnish people not of Ural-Altaic stock, but they took the language from people living in that area earlier.
Still, it is of course interesting if Hungarians and Japanese share some of the same genes.
Atlis, show your girlfriend the web page I quoted. Maybe interesting for her.
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BobaFett Joined: Jan 06, 2004 Posts: > 500 From: Kamino (wish it would be Lund) PM, WWW
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Its just an apart of the whole story, if i ll have pc gonna post here more details. Language is continualy changing. The hungarian is one of the hardest in the world, contains many segments of different other languages. We came here from the other side of the world and its to recognize in our traditions, cultur, behavour etc the vikings changed many cultures by their oversea visit.
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