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zeb55
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Posted: 2003-12-16 15:11
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I have tried Digital Bluespoon and itīs great exept fot outdoor use. Outside it sucks, itīs way to sensitive of wind. What do you mean when you say that hbh200 doesnīt work fine with glasses? Itīs actually an advantage that it has a cable. when the battery ends you just plug the cable directly in the phone.
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Posted: 2003-12-16 16:09
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The ear hook of the glasses gets hung up on the cable at times. The earbud is exactly the same as the HPR-20 and the OEM headset that comes with the phone. I disagree with the Bluespoon Digital outdoor evaluation. I have been using SE BT headsets since the earliest ones produced. I've been collecting and still have all of their line of BT headsets. Outdoor usage and battery life has always been my biggest gripes. BD battery standby and talk time out lasts any SE BT headset I ever used. I love the inovation of SE BT headsests, but this one sure desevers the crapper award. I put my HBH-200 back in the box only 4 hours after opening it... Its still in the box and I don't intend to take it out and use it ever... I have given away some of my BT headsets to friends of mine and I wouldn't think this would be a great representation of the SE BT headset line. People are still more impressed my old HBH-15 just because they saw Lara Croft wear it on Tomb Raider. Cableless is the best selling point of BT and should remain that way. Read this review of my gripes with the HBH-200... I'm curious to know what your personal opinion of it is...

"I have an issue with the concept of the HBH-200. How is that headset practical? It's just like the old HPR-20. The ear bud is exactly the same as the OEM headset that comes with the P800/P900. And that stupid clip feature. It's not wearable on any piece of clothing. Especially when shirtless on a beach ... If one doesn't have enough slack on that cable while the bud is in their ear they can risk violently yanking it out if not careful. For instance, image having the bud in your right ear and the LCD clipped to your right shirt pocket. Someone suprisingly taps you on the left should and you whip your head to the left. 9/10 times that ear bud will fly out of your right ear and it'll hurt like a SOB. That's why most people with corded headsets always look stiff. You never know when you have enough slack on that cable to move your head around freely.. CABLED HEADSETS LIMITS THE DEGREE OF FREEDOM. Moreover there are still issues with the Bluetooth handsfree profile limitation with the P800/P900 phones. This headsets carries key features which are not obtainable on the P800/P900 because of this. The P900 firmware upgrade was suppose to take care of that for the P900, but it hasn't really.

Moreover, several SE headsets have difficulty switching between calls. I have never been able to successfully answer an additional incoming call from the headset. However, I have only been able to do this with my Bluespoon Digital. This is critical especially while driving. The SE BT headsets would send the second call to the phone thereby forcing one to answer the call their. However, it takes a simple push of the buttons on the BD to switch back and forth between phone conversations...

I'm not sure what SE what thinking with the HBH-200. It seems to be popular for the moment, but the move is far from revolutionary. It's been done with the HPR-20 in some aspect and I don't think it's much different from any 'run of the mill' corded headsets in the market. To think that personalized ringtones were good enough to know who the imcoming caller is. In addition, all BT headsets ring along with the phones anyway. I keep my P900 in my pockets at all time and don't really need it to make 70% of my outgoing calls (voice command tags) or 100% of my incoming calls. Unless the HBH-200 had the contacts listed in the LCD would it be ok.. However, if that's the case then it would be like having a tiny phone attach to a cord that dangles from one's ear. Again, how practical is the design and concept to the future of 'mobile' headset technology???"

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zeb55
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Posted: 2003-12-17 17:38
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I agree with you when you say that the battery and the design of the BS is way better then HBH-200. A problem with BS is that it only goes in the right ear, not a problem for myself but many people i know. Itīs also a bit tricky to do a voice dial, when you push the button you also push the BS further inside your ear.

I still claim that the BS is sensitive when you are outside, and if itīs windy its even a bigger problem. But i hope in the future that we will se better headsets with better batterys. I wouldnīt have changed my BS if it wasnīt problems with the analog version and P900.
BigFeat
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Posted: 2003-12-17 19:38
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No problem with the BS - Digital so far. You must remember the point of the digital processor in the latest BS headset was to compensate for extra noises like wind. I wanted to make sure you didn't generalize your experience with the analog BS as what the overall BS BT headset line quality is. I have 10 BT headsets to-date 7 of which are SE manufacturered. I still say the BS Digital far exceeds in quality over any of them. I understand people's opinions may always be differ. I think I have enough BT headsets to make a good assesment as to what works well with the P800/P900 in terms of style, quality, etc.... Right now, quality is on my priority list... Leave the styling to Nokia and SE.. However, quality will always be subpar as long as that's all they focus on.
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nixin
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Posted: 2003-12-17 19:46
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ewwww the blue spooon looks cheap and tacky and ugly! the HBH 35 looks the best! Big feat can you post some more pictures like maybe of all your other BT headsets and maybe a some pictures of your wallet or bank statments? that would be cooL!
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BigFeat
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Posted: 2003-12-18 01:57
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Nixin - The Bluespoon Digital was actually the price of those three SE BT headsets combined... So it was anything but cheap despite its esthetics... Quality vs Style - what's your priority?

I'll put up the full line of SE headsets plus the Nokia and Motorolla ones if you want..I'll post my bank statement along with some access #s just for you..
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Superluminova
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Posted: 2003-12-18 02:06
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yeah bigfeat i you could post all the Se bluetooth headsets you have i think i would be kinda cool to see the evolution of the bluetooth headset
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kissdadookie
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Posted: 2004-02-12 04:26
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Just to add to this thread, I personally HATE the new Motorola HS810. I went through 9 stores to find this hard to find headset (at least hard to find in AT&T stores here in NYC) and exchanged my M3000 for it. I took it home, all happy, delighted at the package and all the accessories it came with. I tried it on, my girlfriend could barely make out what I was saying and the voice commands were pretty much rendered useless. I tried recording voice messages to myself through the HS810 and everything sounded muffled like as if something was covering the mic. Something is actually covering the mic, your face, it has direct contact with your face. That was a dumb move. Only way to make the thing work properly was to either 1) slightly lift the mic off your face 2) wear the headset improperly (and unsecurely) so that the earhook is clipping a little bit of your ear instead of hooking onto it so that the mic is a little bit away from your face. The mic when it's not being covered (which is just not possible with the way this thing was designed) is pretty clear and loud but this thing is just not useable unless you use it in a non-conventional manner. I traded the HS810 back to the store the next day and got myself another M3000. I'll take the great audio quailities of the M3000 and even the horrible performance under windy conditions over the unusable HS810.
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