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Ayush
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Posted: 2003-12-08 12:43
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=Vlam u refering 2 my 'bookmarks' 3ed? ;-)

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Fritz24
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Posted: 2003-12-08 12:58
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I'm tired of people saying 'Please can you send me every Mophun game ever made for free. My email address is scrounger@freebootgincheapskate.com'
Universal Exports
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Posted: 2003-12-08 13:13
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But we really can't be so mean to new posters. Welcome them and tell them to
"The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success."
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Posted: 2003-12-08 13:19
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I think there is really nothing wrong with threads which have 'negative/unpressumed' headings. The problem now lies with the members itself if they are disgruntled/angered by the contents of those threads. As they say in 'showbiz' - good or bad publicity, is still a publicity. What I think about those posters who have such 'unassuming' headings are signs of initial 'precautions' that they might get 'flamed' by such 'notorious' 'know-it-all' 'godly' members, and most of them are of the old-timers at ESATO.
mixin
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Posted: 2003-12-08 13:25
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Quote:

On 2003-12-08 13:13:12, Universal Exports wrote:
Welcome them and tell them to



If we tell them, they'll forget. If we teach them, they'll remember
Universal Exports
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Posted: 2003-12-08 16:21
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@ Mixin

But I really think there is something wrong when new posters feel they have to exuse themselves for asking a question...
"The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success."
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Posted: 2003-12-08 21:56
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@vlam: the garbage thread isnīt a "joke" thread cuz we cant post in it. The garbage tharead is made so the moderators can put the post that doesent fit in the other thread.

New topic in garbage thread.
davieboi
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Posted: 2003-12-08 22:07
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Why is the search this kind of mirical answer? Thats what annoys me. I can understand when some one posts a thread with something plain and stupid like 'Are there any themes for the T610?' but when people ask more detailed questions which ok may have been addressed before the individual gets grilled anyway for not using the search where it is very possible that they have and used the wrong phrase and couldn't find anything about the subject and the people who are guilty of this is the memebers who have been here the longest, thus why newcomers are worried about being grilled and have to put those type of headings for new posts.
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Posted: 2003-12-09 00:46
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The real problem is the high rate of inapropriate question that bug some of us. They just dont bother to search or to read the 'noob section'. I resent that.

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mixin
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Posted: 2003-12-09 01:01
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but when someone starts a new thread, and someone replies telling them to use the search... the search feature gets clogged up with threads with no answers.

Its not the new threads that are the problem.. its the lack of answers.
Vlammetje
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Posted: 2003-12-09 12:58
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or it's the complete omnipresence of useless answers, as well as useless threads (like this one) that cloggs up the searvch function.


@ speedooh: once upon a time the garbage used to be the place for jokes and fun, until some day in their infinite wisdom the moderators decided to lock it up so that no new amusing threads could be added, and instead move all 'inappropriate threads' to it. So now the garbage is full of threads that have annoyed ppl and there is little to laugh about anymore.

But if a thread is 'inappropriate', shouldn't the mods just simply delete it? Leaving it on the board will only clog things up more and now there is no place to start a new 'fun' thread anymore. That in my opinion is one of Esato's bigger mistakes.

A good clean up would be nice. Unlocking the garbage for entertainment purposes would also be nice.
amagab
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Posted: 2003-12-09 14:18
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vlam> i'm all with you regarding deleting. there are thousands of threads that is not needed on this forum, including this one even though I started it. If the threads are outdated, misinforming, dublicates, or just plain stupid, I think they should be deleted.

However, is see why the moderators refrain from doing that. It is not good for Esato's reputation and decreases the number of posts they can boast. Howard Forums deletes threads right and left without even thinking, and one of my popular threads were one of them, which is why I try to avoid that damn place.

mixin
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Posted: 2003-12-09 14:33
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Lets look at it this way:
Someone posts a new thread, and they dont visit esato much (or use any forums for that matter) and they come back a week later, to try find thier answer, but its been deleted, because someones decided to either a. threadjack or b. abuse the thread starter.

They then cant find thier thread. And start two new ones...
1. asking the question again
and
2. asking why thier thread was deleted!
its making things even harder.

But then deleting things makes the search easier to use
Vlammetje
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Posted: 2003-12-09 14:46
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Plenty of forums archive threads after a period of non use, say 6 months. I think that is very reasonable. Of course on occassion one might miss one of those 'old threads' but I doubt that would occur frequently tbh.

Other boards actively remove those that are outdated or are duplicates.

This board has 7 mods. SOMETHING could be done IMHO.
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Posted: 2003-12-09 14:58
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I think that the links to the noobie info (faq's etc.) could be more clearly displayed on the site, particularly the Homepage and Forum Home page.

It's probable that alot of first timers find the sites homepage, click on one of the thread headers and then realise that they have to sign up for the forum. So, they sign up and immediately post a new thread.

If the faq threads were more clearly displayed, they might click on those links before wading into the forum, and have their questions answered immediately. People are impatiant when they get a new toy, they want answers NOW!

Particularly if they've never been on a forum before, they're bound not to understand the rules and etiquette.

EDIT - Yeah, I know that the link to faq's in the forum topics list isn't exactly hidden, but I still think it could be clearer! Maybe have it as a large link right at the very top of the topics list? Same thing somewhere on the homepage? just a thought!

[ This Message was edited by: Cycovision on 2003-12-09 14:17 ]
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