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Munzab
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Posted: 2003-10-02 19:23
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The thing is, in ireland, it costs horrifically high to use your mobile phone. the contracts are so expensive and you dont even get a decent amount of minutes free for what you pay, and the phones they sell with the contracts, well, they might even be selling the phones more expensive for all the Things they are doing.
I find vodafone really expensive, and really bad, O2 not too much better.
i am on vodafone because i had a sim card from uk, and wasnt too keen on changing company (call it human inertia to do new stuff) and i also got a meteor Siemens m35 free when i signed up to a bank. i offloaded the m35 and have kept the meteor sim which i use from time to time without any trouble. a text message in the country costs 9c and out of the country 15 cents.

as for the t68i, its like i said, the newest SE around at €499.
I saw a shop where the t610 is sold at €509.sim free that is...
ireland is a forgotten island. too bad, we had good potential...
RedCrow
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Posted: 2003-10-02 20:02
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anyone have a cunning plan to make SE more popular therefore more cheeper in Ireland ???

we have to take over somehow ..block those nokias ..anyone got a plan....... anyone? ......hello
cableguy
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Posted: 2003-10-03 08:58
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Prepaid mobile charge '200pc higher' than bill service

PAY-AS-YOU-GO mobile users are being charged up to four times (200pc) more than people using bill phones, an Oireachtas committee heard yesterday.

Ireland is a "nation of yappers and tappers" with the highest number of mobile phones per capita in Europe, but our costs are also the highest, James O'Flynn of the Consumers' Association of Ireland told the committee on communications.

Competition does not exist between the two main players, Vodafone and O2, which run fancy advertising campaigns but do not offer real differences on price or service, he said.

Phone companies argued that they could charge prepaid customers more for calls because they did not pay rental charges and were not tied to one network, but in reality most people did stick with the service they started with, he said.

Two-thirds of mobile phones in this country are prepaid, one of the highest levels in Europe, the committee was told.

Texting charges are also "outrageous" as even the lowest rates of 8 or 9c were way more than the actual costs of transmitting these messages which are "infinitesmally lower", said Mr O'Flynn.

More transparency on charges, lower prices and more competition were needed and the powers of the regulatory body Comreg should be enhanced to shut down mobile phone companies if they didn't behave, similar to the powers of its British counterpart, he said.

"The regulator needs to be the biggest bully on the patch to keep them all in line," he said.

Roaming charges for using your mobile abroad were also inexcusably high, at up to 20 times more than domestic rates, while some postpaid handsets were much cheaper in Britain than in Ireland, said Louise McBride of the CAI.

Comreg chairperson Etain Doyle said she was reviewing the level of competition in the Irish mobile retail market to see if it should be included in an EU list of markets that needed more regulation to provide effective competition.

She said that Irish people spent an average of €46 per month on mobile phones, the highest in the EU.

Meanwhile, the costly phone service of picture messaging is set to come down as Vodafone and O2 are to reduce charges in a bid to boost the use of the service.

Vodafone is slashing the cost of its picture messaging by 20c for the next three months and O2 looks set to follow with a similar promotion.

Aideen Sheehan
and Martha Kearns


Taken from Irish Independent Online

If that isnt bad enought take a look at how much VF & 02 make on us compared to the rest of europe.

http://www.comreg.ie/_fileupload/publications/ComReg03118.pdf

Is there anything we can do to stop getting ripped off???



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RedCrow
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Posted: 2003-10-03 13:07
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we complain somehow !

..unfortunately there is a tendancy for the Irish to 'not complain' and put up with all the cr@p that is thrown at them ...look at the price of houses, food in Dunnes, medical costs, car tax ...and insurance...

...too many people let those backscratching, corrupt, 'anti-competition', "if it was alright for my father then it's alright for me" thicko's in the Dail get away with too much.

people will not complain in this country and there is a perverse snobbishness of being proud of buying something that is more expensive than your neighbours !

have you ever told a shopkeeper or restaurant owner that their products are too expensive or are inferior in quality have you ever sent a meal back because it is cr@p or refused to pay..? they look at you as if you have said something blasphemous !

the celtic tiger was a sham ..this country has a huge divide between rich and poor and large companies exploit that...

I love the fact that Tescos are making SuperQuinn and Dunnes reduce their prices ...hopefully TESCO will sell mobiles as it does in the UK ..that'll shock the VF, O2 and Meteor stores.

anyhow thats my rant for the day ....dont get me started on the fact I had to leave the pub earlier than normal last night because of those anally retentive thicko's have changed the licensing hours !!!!!!!!!!!
cableguy
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Posted: 2003-10-03 13:30
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Well I have started to email Vodafone everyday and ask them loads of questions like why when your roaming that they charge 15% administration costs.? (its in the small print!!)
And why are you charged from making Toll free numbers when you are abroad.
Its so easy and it only takes a minute every day, at least it will piss them off and they have to answer your questions.

Its a pity Comreg cant force Vodafone/02 to reduce their charges,
jester
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Posted: 2003-10-06 12:45
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Hey guys,

I've a T68i sitting at home, got it when it was first released in Europe so the s/w version is very old plus the number 8 button and the joystick are very stiff. Is there anywhere in Ireland that can I can walk into and get a repair and s/w upgrade while I'm there?? I remember looking this time last year and there was some place in Dublin that I would have the send my phone to, has the situation improvered any??
DeffGoat
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Posted: 2003-10-06 13:33
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I wish I knew ....i need to get my t68i upgraded to work properly with my communicam ..i think mine will be sent to UK

you could try http://www.cellularworld.ie ...they offer a repair service
f1eddie
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Posted: 2003-10-06 14:14
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Hi guys
Regestered when i saw this link. Im from dublin but at the moment i am in england for one year. i am getting my new t610 next week. Cant wait. O2 just got the P800 on their web site so it should be in the shops soon. If you want to see sonyericsson phones go to a shop on georges street. Not sure of its name but if you walk through georges street arcade going towards georges st take a left and then the shop will be on your left. I think that they can flash your mob their and maybe repair it.
Munzab
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Posted: 2003-10-06 18:38
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Eurm jester, im not sure, but try carphone warehouse first.

if you know dublin well, there is a mobile phone shop, opposite aya and besides dunnes on south george's street off aungier street in dublin 2.
they repair mobile phones and sell second hand ones too, and they do have new models that neither o2, vodafone nor meteor are selling, like the t610.
DeffGoat
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Posted: 2003-10-06 19:47
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if anybody has anymore info on places where SE's can be upgraded, serviced ...unl*cked etc ....lets post it here !

If there is any SE friendly retailers lets support them ....my local fone tech man was amazed when I took a r380 to him ...he had never seen anything like it ...unfortunately he knows everything about blokias!!!!!


.....anyone know of a cheap T68i or t39m for sale ??
Munzab
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Posted: 2003-10-07 22:55
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sorry dunno.tomorrow ill be going to that second hand shop, so ill ask around and let u guys know whats in there
cableguy
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Posted: 2003-10-08 11:32
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DeffGoat if you try ebay.co.uk you might be able to pick up a T68i or T39 for cheap.
http://www.buyandsell.net is usually a joke any SE phones are usually overpriced, but i have seen a few car handsfree for sale at a resonable price.

Just checked B and S and there is a cheep T39
Ericsson T39M. C/w charger, Price: €40 Contact: 086-3957802



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Munzab
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Posted: 2003-10-08 11:39
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i dont mind the ebay.co.uk but please be careful, because when sellers say its posted to the uk, this does not include republic of ireland, so u will have to pay more to get the phones sent to ireland. just be careful...

dont forget conversion from euro to sterling is horrible...
cableguy
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Posted: 2003-10-08 11:57
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Thats true, but im lucky cos my brother lives in London, so i get all the stuff sent to him and he just posts it over to me.
The coversion is a killer between the Yoyo and the GBP , but what can you do?
Its the only way to eat cheepish SE phones/gadgets in Ireland
Munzab
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Posted: 2003-10-08 13:58
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hah tell me about it. u cannot compare sterling to euro, besides, whatever they can inflate, they inflate here.

imagine, something that is sold 19 pounds there, is sold 65 euros here!
come to think about it, are we in an upper class society or what?the monaco of the british isles?
somehow i do not think so.

and i say booh to that conversion and to the price inflation retailers forge out of consumers.
now someone's gonna come in and say, well retailers have to make a profit, have to import stuff and to pay and all that.
ok, but then, we are so close to the uk, why does it cost so much to bring stuff over from there?
is it because the irish hate the british so much that they have to overprice uk goods so that no one can buy it?and then, apart from uk goods?what can we use?
mobile phones, they are selling 3310's.
they just started 3510's. come on, how old are they? and we are only just getting them, only to name those two, so many phones havent arrived yet.

i somehow think we are a forgotten and forbidden island.
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