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Lordmike
Joined: Apr 29, 2003
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From: Sweden
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Will let you know tomorrow or next week what I think about it.  Gaah need to take the USB cradle with me to work and install pc suite.. also bring some backups so I can install the MSD while at work.
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bloomp
Joined: Jan 21, 2003
Posts: 288
From: London
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overlay plus, essential!
would be good if the flash accessory worked without two buttons being pressed. Perhaps this is something that could be updated in new firmware? |
Lordmike
Joined: Apr 29, 2003
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From: Sweden
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@bloomp
No info that was available on SE yet, since the product isn't released. But the guy I talked to "hoped" that they added this for the next upgrade. We will just have to wait and see.
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bossjohnc
Joined: Jan 24, 2003
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From: UK
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It's horses for courses I think - I prefer the Brando.
My main reason for this is that it doesn't really show up fingerprints, so I don't find myself wiping it all the time and getting annoyed when something gets on it!
It sounds to me like although the Overlay Plus lets more light through, it needs to be wiped more often (although probably less than the actual screen).
I think the Brando is better for use with fingers.
I'm only going on what I've heard, so if anyone has both and could make a comparison that would be grand
Edit: oops, this is wandering off topic slightly - I'm going to start a new thread!
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lesneo
Joined: Jan 19, 2002
Posts: 482
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Pressing 2 buttons (one for camera and one for flash)??!!!
Obviously you guys don't understand a thing about photography.
When taking a photo, cameras work with 2 elements: shutter speed and lens aperture. For shutter speed, we are looking at 1/30, 1/60, 1/125 of a sec. You know how fast that is? As far as I know, if you try shooting below 1/20 (even when you use flash), probably you'll get blur pic due to camera shake. Thus, cameras are normally programmed to shoot with flash at 1/60 of a sec. If you have good hands, you can set it to 1/30 of a sec. There is thus NO WAY you can activate flash manually with that kinda speed!!! The flash will definitely miss the shot if you try to trigger it manually...
For the P800, I dunno what the sync speed its camera has. Probably 1/60 of a sec. For the flash to work effectively with its camera, there HAS TO BE a sync program between the camera and the flash to activate them both at the same time.
Manually? It is impossible... our human co-ordination can never be that precise in the region of 1/60 of a sec...
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Bogus Jimmy
Joined: Mar 01, 2003
Posts: 282
From: Adelaide, Australia
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From what I've seen (& this has probably been discussed elsewhere, but it seems appropriate to put it in this thread), the flash is more like a torch/flashlight as in it is a constant beam of light. You turn it on, set up your pic, take it and then turn it off. I guess this means shining a very bright light in the eyes of the people whose picture you are taking for the few seconds before the photo. I think this is how it works with both the T610 and P800, and I also assume it would work on any other  phone with the standard 3v connection, and it could just be used as a light.
In this picure you can see the power switch on the right (maybe there is a shutter button on the other side, but I havent seen it any photos):
I really do hope I'm wrong and that l8shop is right in that you press the shutter button on the flash and it takes a picture in sync with the phone. It's also possible that this is how it works with the T610 but with the P800 (and the others) you just get a beam of light.
Also I hope that P800er.com will be cheaper than this, coz I've already put over US$300 into accessories for my P800 but I think an MPF-10 would be quite useful.
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bloomp
Joined: Jan 21, 2003
Posts: 288
From: London
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its not a flash light, its a flash!! the power button is to turn it on! |
masseur
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Sydney, London
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Ok, well according to the manual...
To take a picture with the flash
1. Attach the flash to the phone
2. Press the phone's camera button to activate the camera
3. Press the flash button to take the picture
Tip: If the subject is too dark light up the subject by pressing the flash button twice quickly, and then press the flash button again to take the picture.
Extra functions
In the phone menu, scoll to Accessories, Phone flash, Extras and select:
. Constant light to use as a torch
. SOS to flash SOS morse code
. Stroboscope for high frequency light
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Bogus Jimmy
Joined: Mar 01, 2003
Posts: 282
From: Adelaide, Australia
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As I said, I hoped I was wrong. Is there any confirmation as to whether it works with a P800 though?
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Lordmike
Joined: Apr 29, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Sweden
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@Bogus Jimmy
I answered that question on the first page. According to SE it works on all SE phones. But it's made for the T610. So it can't flash with the P800. Unless you press a button on it. Meaning that there is no way in hell that one can take a photograph if it's only one instant flash. Well atleast not me 
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Bogus Jimmy
Joined: Mar 01, 2003
Posts: 282
From: Adelaide, Australia
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I just wanted to hear from someone who had actually connected one to a P800. have known to be wrong in the past.......... 
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masseur
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
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I thought it was compatible with the P800 but according to the MPF-10 compatibility page its only compatible with the T610, T616 and T618.
edit: Its also NOT listed on the P800 accesories page.
So I dunno...
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Lordmike
Joined: Apr 29, 2003
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From: Sweden
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No SE have never been wrong in the past, where did you get that from? *coughs* BS *coughs*. Yeah it depends on who you talk to at SE too. I mean sometimes I get the "I only work here and the computer don't know the answer" kinda types. *shudders* Hope it will be out soon so someone can test it!!
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Bogus Jimmy
Joined: Mar 01, 2003
Posts: 282
From: Adelaide, Australia
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It's not lookin' good...... |
lesneo
Joined: Jan 19, 2002
Posts: 482
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As I've said before, it is impossible to press both the flash button and the camera button at the same time to capture a shot.
My analysis: To take the photo when the MPF-10 is attached, activate the camera first on the P800. When you see the preview on the screen, compose your picture and then PRESS THE BUTTON ON THE FLASH, NOT THE BUTTON ON THE CAMERA to take the picture. This will activate both the flash as well as camera on the P800 to capture the shot.
Now, if the setting is too dark and the preview on the P800 cannot pick up anything, then switch on the torch function of the flash (by pressing the button twice - hope I read the previous post correctly). You must understand that this torch light function DOES NOT emit the full intensity of the flash but merely a preview light for the camera on the P800 to pick up its subject so that we can see the preview on screen. The picture is then taken by pressing the flash button like what I mentioned in para 2.
It is cool to read that the flash comes with Strob effect. This is commonly found in professional flashlights used together with SLR cameras. Basically, the flash will fire 5-8 times per second. It is either to create special effects or to reduce red-eye effect on the subject. I believe it to fulfill the latter. |
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