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Freak
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Posted: 2003-04-29 18:42
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i will what until:

1. the netware is good and i can use it everywhere in sweden.

2. other people have one! becuse if not, why do i need video-cal function?

3. the price drops per minute, becuse i expect it to be high in the begining.

3. 3G phones have better standby and talktime, 30 minutes talktime isn“t that good!

4. 3G phone that isn“t so big, everyone i have seen so far is big if you compare it with the phones that are out now!

number 1 and 2 are the main reason that i not going to buy that sort of phone in atleast one year!
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Posted: 2003-04-29 18:48
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Its gonna take ages for 3G to arrive in INDIA :-(

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Posted: 2003-04-30 01:25
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@ freak: this means 2 years or so
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phil.n
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Posted: 2003-04-30 10:04
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They only have a talktime of 30 mins??! That beats all of my reasons!
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Posted: 2003-04-30 11:16
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On 2003-04-29 16:45, phil.n wrote:
The phones are not £199 sim free!! the t68i was £300+ sim free so a 3G phone is definitley not going to be cheaper!
edit: just checked and the prices are only if you also sign up to one of their 'price plans'.

I agree that normal calls are about the same but the cost of the phone and monthly costs/line rental added to the fact that video coverage is pretty poor means that it is a pretty shoddy deal.

Lets face it, a 3G phone wich isn't using its video capabilities is just a normal phone.



Try going into a Three store and ask. I just checked again yesterday - they are £199 with NO contract. The web-site is not up to date. Suggest you check you information before contradicting me ...

I also know people very high up in Three (high up enough to allow me to get a phone for £49), so I think my information is up to date.
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Posted: 2003-04-30 11:45
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You said it yourself, the website is not up to date.

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Posted: 2003-04-30 17:51
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3 isn't exactly expensive for what it is.
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Posted: 2003-04-30 23:16
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To clear up a few things:

The NEC E606 is available for £199.99 either on a contract (Kit or Caboodle tariffs) or PAYG (3-To-Go). On the PAYG option, there is NO monthly rental fee. The Motorola A830 is also now available at £124.99 on the same terms.

3's service is, at the moment, barely worth consideration. They are voice only pretty much everywhere outside the M25 and have absolutely no 3G service north of Birmingham. Think Mercury in the 80s!

Also, apart from the dismal battery life on ALL available handsets, it takes about 20 minutes to switch between GSM and UMTS and if you leave a 3G service area mid-call you will be cut off.

These are pretty compelling reasons not to invest in 3 at the moment. On the other hand, when the service is up and running as we would expect, those people who snapped up 1000 voice mins xnet, 100 mins video-calling, 250 SMS, 60 photo messages and 40 video messages for £59.99 per month will be laughing!

Personally, I'll wait for or Nokia (gasp!) to release a handset that isn't as big as my head before I enter the market.
simon69c
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Posted: 2003-05-01 09:41
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Well those are Three's official prices - you can get the phones for less though. Neil @ time2talk is selling them for £20 less than the official prices so the A830 for example is only £104.99 with no contract (although you still need to pass a credit check on 3togo since it is a post-pay tariff like OVP Virgin on Orange).

There seem to be a lot of mixed experiences with 3 so far. Some people have no end of trouble with the phone taking days to activate, customer services being awful, 3 covergae being bad, handsets not switching between 3G/GSM covergae very well. However I have also heard from people who are overall pretty pleased so far. Had phones activated pretty much straight away, coverage pretty good, etc. I guess a lot depends on where you are - obviously the most heavily populated areas will have the best 3G coverage, but there are people who have pretty good covergae in places other than inside the M25.

At the end of the day they are covered by a 14 day guarantee so you really don't have much to loose if you want to give it a try. I was going to be going for the A830 on 3togo but now since the T610 appears to be launching within the next couple of weeks or so (and at very reasonable prices on Orange) I may just go with that and think about 3G later.
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Posted: 2003-05-01 10:02
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The only 3G Service around here is Reliance which has only WCDMA phones. I was really interested in it till i saw the video transmission in it. It uses GPRS to transmit video and its really jerky and you even sometimes find yourself looking at the same image for 20-30 sec's. They charge Rs. 6500 (135 euro) as a down payment and you have to pay Rs. 250 (5 euro) + talk time charges per month for 3 years. They have only LG and Samsung 3G sets.
phil.n
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Posted: 2003-05-01 10:12
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ok, to sum up so far:

I was pretty wrong about prices (sorry peeps!) except if you take on the £60/£100pm contracts .

It's pot luck whether you get good/bad/non existant video.

Current phones seem pretty shocking, i.e. talk time of 30mins.

Switching from GSM to UTMS has been reported as being very unreliable.
tycho
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Posted: 2003-05-01 11:24
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I have the nec 606 on trial for 2 months as do about 10 of my mates and while the video calling is fun, it is a bit pointless. The phone itself is shockingly bad. The only thing it does well is video calls, everything else is terrible. The menus are so unintuitive and the phone feels like a beta version as things like bluetooth don't work. I'm going to wait until Vodafone do their 3G and see what that is like.
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Posted: 2003-05-01 12:38
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i agree totally. these ''release'' phones r horrible, i mean the e606 is 205g thats like nearly 60g heavier than the p800! it is such a shame as the tariffs r actually really good value for what you get, better than any other network. but as discussed earlier, we dont really know how reliable this network is going to be until it is fully established. i really dont understand why they didnt bring out some nicer looking handsets coz im sure they would have ALOT more new customers wanting to join.
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Posted: 2003-05-01 13:47
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Video calls are a gimmick. The real draw of 3g will be in data applications. That will take time to evolve. Europeans will have 3g sites online before us americans even get the service. That is where the real future of wap already exists. Pda interface with the world with fast multimedia access. Plus a seamless wireless broadband access to the web.

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ozzie_uk
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Posted: 2003-05-01 14:17
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On 2003-05-01 13:47, gzumba wrote:
Video calls are a gimmick. The real draw of 3g will be in data applications. That will take time to evolve. Europeans will have 3g sites online before us americans even get the service. That is where the real future of wap already exists. Pda interface with the world with fast multimedia access. Plus a seamless wireless broadband access to the web.



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I agree - the 384Kb/s download speed for data will get all the commercial customers once they have some decent handsets ...
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