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iyiinsan
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Posted: 2003-03-05 17:21
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Go and try to understand women... It is easier!!!


It is unbelievable but people in Turkey started buying T100's!!! In my school, 2/5 of the people have it... And also the friends of my father - especially from work - who saw the phone went and bought one after work!!! Good Job !!! I thinks that people started to realize that they should get rid of their Nokia's!!!
crash1103
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Posted: 2003-03-05 17:29
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Just face it! Nokia phones are great. Whats the big deal if they own /buya nokia phone? (Paulit ulit na lang)

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butterguy
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Posted: 2003-03-05 17:32
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I have a n7210 and i'm not ashamed to admit it, people i bought it cause it fit my needs and not because i'm dumb and can't decipher gadgets. The price was very good also, I got a nice discount from a friend, so it was worth it. Now i'm in the market for a P800 and while I'm waiting for it to be released sim free in the UK, i will be using my nokia 7210. It works great, doesn't hang, doesn't reboot, all these rumours u hear about the phone being crap are probably from people who dislike nokia so much or really don't know how to use a phone. Anyways...i also picked the 7210 cause i'm gonna give it to my gf, she liked the phone because of the styling and i'm sorry to say, our society is like that people, make something look good, it will sell, regardless of if it does all it should be doing.
Now to that comment of the T-100....i wanna know how the T-100 is better than any nokia 40 series?? apart from the screen...i have no clue.

I'm not trying to save nokia and tell you they re better...heck i only bought phones from them, i don't work for them and if u hate them then go ahead...It's all subjective in the end. I just think you should think about how other people who are not so much into gadgetry think before you can say people are stupid. I mean why do people still buy ford's instead of nissans? you go ahead and tell me...
Flying Finn
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Posted: 2003-03-05 18:14
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Why should I buy a SE?

-their small 256 colour screens are shit against Nokia's Series 40/60 screens (yes that might change but not yet)
-no Java except in P800 and T610 which are HIGH-END phones while Nokia has Java in entry level phones too (3410, 3510i, S40 etc)

-looks (I think Nokia phones look generally better)
-ease of use (Nokia's are easier to use)
chillinCHiEF
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Posted: 2003-03-05 19:00
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Where I'm from Nokias are just cheaper. Half the time you can get them for free when you sign up for a plan.

In America, most people's first cell phone was the 5100 series. People here tend to have fanatic brand loyalty, and once they get into Nokia, they are very hesitent to switch. I had a Nokia at first, and wasn't sure about getting a T60, but it turned out to be great. Since then, I've had two other SEs and one Motorola(only because my T61 got ran over)

People here seem especially loyal to Motorola.
ppcrockar
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Posted: 2003-03-05 19:43
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I think the problems for SE are to get people to try their phones. I think a lot of people would like it if they only gave it a chance.

The only reason Nokia has the market share they have today is their 3210/3310 phones. The big market share are from these phones. But they are really old today (even if the 3310 still sells well). I'm a bit surprised that the 3310 still sells that well, because it's actually one of the worst low-end phones today. The competition has better battery performance, are smaller and has about the same price. And i-m just talking about SE here there are a lot of very good phones in the low-end segment. But still people tend to buy the 3310. That shows how much the fact that it says Nokia on the front means.

When it comes to high-end phones Nokia has never really been in the frontline. But that is not were the big market share is.

I think Nokia's market share will go down quite alot in the years to come. The asian manufacturers will be a though competitors on the low-end market. Another thing is that Nokia can't sell the same phone for like 3 years like they did with 3210/3310, the competition today is much to though for that to work.

In the high-end market, SE has always been ahead of Nokia. My guess is that SE has a pretty good marketshare of the high-end phones. What SE needs is some low-end phones that can sell bucket-loads.
ThreeX
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Posted: 2003-03-05 19:54
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I donīt think the average Nokia user will appreciate the SE menu system/layout..
My girlfriend is groaning everytime she sends an SMS, says itīs a pain compared to Nokia.. and i tend to agree.. (she has the last good looking SE phone, the t200 btw) When i switched from 8310 to t68 i wasnīt too impressed myself.. but being used to adapt to different UIīs.. I have one Mac, one Windows PC and one Unix in my office i didnīt find it very hard, but i can understand people who donīt like SE interface. Going from SE --> Siemens was easy, in my opinion itīs the best from both worlds..
I think the secret is that most people can handle the Nokias even without looking in the manual, and outside this forum there arenīt that many tech-heads iīm afraid
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dazbradbury
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Posted: 2003-03-05 20:13
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yeh, I asked my mate why he was going from his t68i to a nokia, cant remember which model as they have so many, he just said cuz its idiot-prood, he said he knows the t68i is way better but doeasn't need it. Personally i dont think the t68i is that great a phone, it is really too slow, but it does have a lot of funcionality which i enjoy using and playing with. personally i dont think the SE interface is very hard to use, in fact it's very simple compared to some other manufacturers, but the nokia one is kinda easy. Anyway, hopefully i will be able to pass on my t68i when my p800 comes... cant wait.
putin
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Posted: 2003-03-05 20:24
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Tek heads are few :-(

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oxegn
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Posted: 2003-03-05 20:39
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Nokia win in for user firendlyness for sure.

The mojority of mobile users aren't like esato users in that thay just want a mobile for what they are really meant for - to make calls and send sms. Nokia phones (like 3410) are easily easiest for this type of thing.

Hell even my mum can use a 3310! and that is saying something. How many people's parents here would actually understand a t68i?

My mum struggled with ericsson and phillips phones so much, now she can even send a text...sometimes!

The majority of mobile users probably think bluetooth is a mouth disorder
fijbert
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Posted: 2003-03-05 20:51
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face it nokia is a great company..
I wld love to get my hands on the N-Gage, the 6800 and the 6100 kix ass..
they hv fewer stumps than SE does.. I never upgraded software for a nokia.. it has always been flawless
Nokias r durable.. X-press on faceplates.. I miss that soooooo much..
u try replacing a faceplate on a T68i or a P800
fast menus.. no loading time.. I love it..
nokia games r better.. Bounce, Snake.. who can really say that they rather hv 6 card games over Snake?
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Miss UK
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Posted: 2003-03-05 20:53
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Yeah does it matter what ppl buy or use,as long as it does the job thats what counts! my mum has a Siemens c35 that first waphone by them and she can only that lol ive got a Nokia 8310 n S55 luv both'..!

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ppcrockar
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Posted: 2003-03-05 21:10
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My mother has a SE T300 and she thinks the user interface is great

Sure Nokia's interface was good a few years ago, but compared to the user interfaces of phones like the T68/T300, Siemens S55, Panasonic GD87, Nokia is really loosing out on the ease of use part as well as the features part.

Nokias interface was very good when the phones had small screens, but today the are not that good anymore. Especially not on the newer Nokias with more features (and more menu items)
Miss UK
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Posted: 2003-03-05 21:18
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The 8310 is the best Nokia phone. rest ok!

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Flying Finn
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Posted: 2003-03-05 21:29
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What do you mean ppcrockar? The Series 40(5100/6100/6200/6610/6800/7210/7250/7250i) user interface is very friendly. The screen is bright and the menu system utilizes the colours & resolution beautifully. I think the Nokia menu system and ease of use have only gone forward. Symbian is more complicated but it's meant for advanced users anyway.

And I'm not sure about your views on Nokia's market share either. Sure worldwide it's the low end phones that sell best but I would say Nokia's 6xxx, 8xxx and 9xxx series have been very popular among the high-end users too.

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