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paomig
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Posted: 2003-04-01 00:33
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hello people...happy April Fool's
ewokard
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Posted: 2003-04-01 19:27
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face it yall, 3G will only coming into effect when our nation stops being the corrupt country that it is and starts uniting to combat the real issues at hand...poverty, polution, etc.
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Posted: 2003-04-05 01:00
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@ jplacson

Correction! not all Wifi spots in the US is free. so you need to have a regular subscription on a WISP.
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Posted: 2003-04-05 03:53
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@cdcjr, ya I know...but at least you guys have free hotspots... I forget the name of the Wifi provider here in the Philippines though.

Just something to check out from the PDI last April 4

http://www.inq7.net/inf/2003/apr/04/inf_1-1.htm

Like I said... 3G was over-hyped... even more so than WAP.
ex_crusader
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Posted: 2003-07-13 14:57
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hey, got no time to read all messages in this thread. i'll just share a part.
at the start of 2003, globe and smart were already doing tests on 3G.
3G promises higher speed, a lot higher than gprs, high enough to support video streaming, (in the internet, video streaming via dial up connections is a mess, you'd rather watch tele novela than watch streaming videos on net, dsl/cable/t3 and other super fast connections can be very reliable when it comes to video streaming)
why talk about video streaming? thats the only super interesting feature of 3G, global positioning system is not really that interesting, current mobile technology has it like WisL of Smart, only information is text based, or they could send pics or maps of the location via mms, but the thing is, it's not real time (in the current tech.)
-when is it gonna be operable in ph? -- NTC reportedly said that philippines would not embrace such technology yet since we are just starting with the current tech which is 2.5G, imagine we aint able to send mms yet to other operators, some op doesn't totally enhanced their 2.5G services like this new player (sun).
-license price? it would really cost operators so much!!! too costly!!! but, hello? di pa ba sapat yung kinikita ng globe and smart to afford this license?
-ang sabi, 2.5G would stay longer and would even get better, besides, for now, di ko pa kailangan yang mga features ng 3G.
ferrarista44
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Posted: 2003-07-13 15:28
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3G? eh yun ngang 2.5G ndi ma-maximize and ma-utilize ng ayos.. to think na GPRS is just a patch of GSM. pano pa kaya kung complete replacement ng system for 3G.

tsaka yun target market ng 3G sa Pinas sobrang liit... malulugi ang mga mobile telcos.
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Posted: 2003-07-13 17:44
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you might be thinking of EDGE, which is another stepping stone to 3G which is a another layer on top of a 2.5G system, but is not yet 3G.

as mentioned previously, 3Gis a whole new system and not just an upgrade, and is extremely expensive so you will not likely see it in the country for quite a long time. before that even happens, the current 2.5G systems must prove themselves to be consistently profitable first.
boysaint
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Posted: 2003-07-13 18:09
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....so then, most probably the Z1010 will be wandering blindly here in the Philippines. if ever any unit will come here.

and speaking of Wi-Fi/hotspots/AccessPoints.... with the appearance of IntelCentrino technology on our mobile PCs.... will it make those hotspots frigid?
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Posted: 2003-07-14 06:18
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i think you'll be more and better informed if you go to the official websites of the operator's associations.

for GSM: www.gsmworld.com
for CDMA: www.cdg.org
third-party site: www.3gtoday.com

based on www.cdg.org: EDGE & WCDMA (for GSM operators), and CDMA2000 (for cdmaOne operators) are the 3G standards approved by the official Industry Union responsible for such decisions.

kung yun ang pagbabasihan natin:
for Philippine GSM operators:
Smart and Globe would be considered 3G operators already because they have just installed EDGE equipment in their networks. Handsets na lang ang kulang to fully utilize such EDGE facilities.

for Philippine cdmaOne operators:
the only cdmaOne operator the Philippines ever had was Piltel (Mobiline/Phone Pal). pero in-abandon na nila ang cdmaOne network nila since they are already using Smart's GSM/GPRS/EDGE network to provide the "Talk 'N text" service.
another philipine operator, Express Telecom, plans to launch a CDMA2000 network (3G din) hopefully within this year.
the advantage of Express Telecom over Smart and Globe is that CDMA2000 already utilizes CDMA technology.
for Smart and Globe to utilize CDMA technology, they still have one more step to take with their GSM network, which is installing WCDMA facilities. YUN ANG MAHAL. so back to Express Telecom, mas advanced talaga sila kung available na ang CDMA2000 network nila dahil THAT IS THE LAST STEP FOR 3G para sa kanila. sa smart and globe, hindi pa last step yung EDGE nila pero qualified na yun as 3G.

i hope this clears things up... Express Telecom provides cellular services, go to www.extelcom.com for more info
Want to know more about your cellular choices? (for Filipinos only) Go to this site: www.philippine-utilities.com.ph
cdcjr
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Posted: 2003-07-25 00:22
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@adv99576

Kung ang phone ko ay EDGE-capable, ano ang mga features na pwede kong ma-eenjoy over the non-EDGE cell phones? Thanks
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Posted: 2003-07-25 03:59
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better network data speeds. meron din daw enhancement sa voice features.
adv99576
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Posted: 2003-07-25 10:27
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@cdcjr
yup, Gowin said it right. the only enhancement of EDGE over GPRS/GSM is the data speed. i don't think there's any improvement on the voice side bcos EDGE techically means Enhanced Data rates for Gsm Evolution. so more improvements on the data side.
Want to know more about your cellular choices? (for Filipinos only) Go to this site: www.philippine-utilities.com.ph
cdcjr
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Posted: 2003-08-05 23:48
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@adv99576 or anyone

When will Globe o Smart be having a GSM 850 Mhz? May plano bang mag put up ng 850 Mhz? Thanks
adv99576
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Posted: 2003-08-12 09:27
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i don't think Smart or Globe will ever put up GSM on 850 Mhz. First of all, it will depend on the NATIONAL TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION if they are going to release frequencies in the 850 Mhz band for use by cellular mobile telephone systems.

Besides, Smart and Globe are already deploying EDGE over their GSM networks (i don't know with Sun). The next logical step for them is to either choose WCDMA or CDMA2000 or just stick to EDGE. (If they stick to EDGE, hanggang dun na lang sila. If they want to enhance/upgrade their technology, WCDMA or CDMA2000 na lang pwede nila pagpilian.)
Want to know more about your cellular choices? (for Filipinos only) Go to this site: www.philippine-utilities.com.ph
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