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moogoo
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One thing I have noticed many of the reviews say that there is only a 256GB variant. This isn't true.
There will be a 12GB/512GB and a 16GB/512GB variant as well. Maybe these two variants will only be sold in Japan?
Almost makes me want to take a trip to japan, purchase the 16GB/512GB variant and get a little vacation out of it. Not only that, but since the yen is weak against the dollar, the price will be more palatable too!
I'll have to check the japanese site again on May 20th, which is when they will post the VII for sale. Not sure if they will be doing the headphone bundle in japan as well, but if so, that makes it an even better deal. Especially if the Japanese bundle includes the XM6s, since that should be after they are announced. Currently there is no mention of bundles on the sony japan site.
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goldenface
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You could be right, they may be saving the best bundles till last, ha. Lets hope.
And you're right about the GSMArena review, they've always been about the bare bones specs too much. The AI adds a new dimension and is becoming increasingly important.
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moogoo
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On 2025-05-14 20:54:37, goldenface wrote:
You could be right, they may be saving the best bundles till last, ha. Lets hope.
And you're right about the GSMArena review, they've always been about the bare bones specs too much. The AI adds a new dimension and is becoming increasingly important.
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2025-05-14 19:56 ]
ha ha.. it would be funny if they did reserve the XM6 bundle for themselves. seriously, if they bundle the XM6, i may have to plan a week long trip to japan to grab myself a new phone and feast on sushi and ramen 
GSMArena did mention the AI but said that as one of the negatives against Sony because they don't have in your face AI features like samsung and apple and relies on Google Gemini. They glossed over the fact that there's plenty of AI doing heavy lifting in the display, audio, and camera.
My biggest criticism of GSMarena is their hardware tests don't ever seem realistic to me. they always rank sony phones as average or low compared to others. Same with their camera tests, which rely solely on automatic mode and nothing else. Something they don't make very clear to readers.
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Nokia 5160 -> Nokia 8260 -> SE T68i -> SE K700i -> SE Z710 -> SE Xperia X10a -> Sony Xperia S -> Sony Xperia Z1 -> Sony Xperia XZ -> Sony Xperia XZ Premium -> Sony Xperia 1ii
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Tsepz_GP
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On 2025-05-14 21:42:12, moogoo wrote:
On 2025-05-14 20:54:37, goldenface wrote:
You could be right, they may be saving the best bundles till last, ha. Lets hope.
And you're right about the GSMArena review, they've always been about the bare bones specs too much. The AI adds a new dimension and is becoming increasingly important.
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2025-05-14 19:56 ]
ha ha.. it would be funny if they did reserve the XM6 bundle for themselves. seriously, if they bundle the XM6, i may have to plan a week long trip to japan to grab myself a new phone and feast on sushi and ramen
GSMArena did mention the AI but said that as one of the negatives against Sony because they don't have in your face AI features like samsung and apple and relies on Google Gemini. They glossed over the fact that there's plenty of AI doing heavy lifting in the display, audio, and camera.
My biggest criticism of GSMarena is their hardware tests don't ever seem realistic to me. they always rank sony phones as average or low compared to others. Same with their camera tests, which rely solely on automatic mode and nothing else. Something they don't make very clear to readers.
Sony phones have become very niche specialist devices I think, GSMArena are still trying to look at them from a mass consumer position which makes things a little difficult. A Sony fan will not want anything but an Xperia no matter what reviewers say.
The fact that you are prepared to go to Japan to get the spec you want is very different to someone who wants to walk into their network providers local shop/branch and get a 512GB smartphone, throw a case on it and go on with their life.
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moogoo
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@Tsepz! Long time no see.
Yes, I agree and am aware that GSMarena are reviewing for the mass public. And I still think their hardware tests are not realistic and practical. Not just for xperia, but for all phones.
Only reason I would be willing to go to Japan to get the phone is because I have been wanting to plan a trip to Japan anyway. Otherwise, getting a sony phone would not be my sole motivation.
In any case, I don't deny that I am a sony fan. But I'm not so much of a superfan that i'd be willing to spend $2,000USD for a phone. Might as well get a japan vacation out of it right?
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Nokia 5160 -> Nokia 8260 -> SE T68i -> SE K700i -> SE Z710 -> SE Xperia X10a -> Sony Xperia S -> Sony Xperia Z1 -> Sony Xperia XZ -> Sony Xperia XZ Premium -> Sony Xperia 1ii
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goldenface
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Don't see why not. It's a good as reason as any to visit Japan (what a great place to test out the camera).
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moogoo
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On 2025-05-16 18:40:36, goldenface wrote:
Don't see why not. It's a good as reason as any to visit Japan (what a great place to test out the camera).
me and goldenface going to Japan for new phones. confirmed.
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goldenface
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See you there. I bagsy the purple version.
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Tsepz_GP
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On 2025-05-16 17:54:59, moogoo wrote:
@Tsepz! Long time no see.
Yes, I agree and am aware that GSMarena are reviewing for the mass public. And I still think their hardware tests are not realistic and practical. Not just for xperia, but for all phones.
Only reason I would be willing to go to Japan to get the phone is because I have been wanting to plan a trip to Japan anyway. Otherwise, getting a sony phone would not be my sole motivation.
In any case, I don't deny that I am a sony fan. But I'm not so much of a superfan that i'd be willing to spend $2,000USD for a phone. Might as well get a japan vacation out of it right?
Long time indeed Moogoo hope you are keeping well!
Yeah the hardware tests are quite unrealistic, I often just watch their videos to get an idea of what the phone Design is, any interesting new software features and then an idea of battery longevity compared to the previous generation when it comes to written reviews, other than that their opinion doesn’t factor as much as used to for me. Us enthusiasts know what we want out of a device already.
Haha!  true, the Japan trip will be far more memorable!
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moogoo
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another bonus to going to japan to buy it is you can get the 16GB/512GB version, which doesn't seem to be available anywhere else. 512gb storage might not matter since you can expand with SD, but 16GB ram would be nice for keeping the phone for the 6 years it can get security updates.
@goldenface purple eh? i was contemplating which i would want. i've always gone with black or white (when available). I was thinking the moss green looked very nice too. Then again, when it's covered by a case, does it really matter?
moogoo
Nokia 5160 -> Nokia 8260 -> SE T68i -> SE K700i -> SE Z710 -> SE Xperia X10a -> Sony Xperia S -> Sony Xperia Z1 -> Sony Xperia XZ -> Sony Xperia XZ Premium -> Sony Xperia 1ii
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goldenface
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I know. How many people actually use the phone without a case - I hardly ever see my phone in it's naked form.
I was drawn towards the green but it looks even paler than the Forest Grey of the 1v. A Midnight Blue version to match the XM6 headphones would have made them a lovely pairing.
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Tsepz_GP
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On 2025-05-16 20:12:17, moogoo wrote:
another bonus to going to japan to buy it is you can get the 16GB/512GB version, which doesn't seem to be available anywhere else. 512gb storage might not matter since you can expand with SD, but 16GB ram would be nice for keeping the phone for the 6 years it can get security updates.
@goldenface purple eh? i was contemplating which i would want. i've always gone with black or white (when available). I was thinking the moss green looked very nice too. Then again, when it's covered by a case, does it really matter?
Yeah 16GB RAM would really future proof it very well.
Do Sony treat their Japan models better on updates than Global devices? I ask this because it seems all manufacturers seem to have a blanket approach these days. I believe Sony promises 4 Android version upgrades and 6 years of security patches there after, so you are more than covered for the 6 years. The 16GB RAM will just ensure that everything still runs smoothly as more features are added in those Android upgrades.
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moogoo
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@goldenface - midnight blue would be amazing.
@Tsepz_GP - japanese variant gets the same 4 OS updates and 6 years of security updates.
May 20th Sony Japan will list the phone for sale on their website. It'll be interesting to see if it does get a bundle and with which set of headphones. Also curious what the prices will be for each spec variant.
I'll update here on the 20th.
moogoo
Nokia 5160 -> Nokia 8260 -> SE T68i -> SE K700i -> SE Z710 -> SE Xperia X10a -> Sony Xperia S -> Sony Xperia Z1 -> Sony Xperia XZ -> Sony Xperia XZ Premium -> Sony Xperia 1ii
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tai020381
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Xperia 1vii have DAC. Sauce :
http://youtube.com/post/Ugkx3[....]mZCK_o-alP?si=RoQilQPPgSSw73Eb
Everyone!! According to official confirmation from Sony Taiwan!
The Xperia 1 VII does have an "independent DAC" but there are no further hardware details to share at this time.
*Background material:
This generation of Sony Xperia 1 VII was jointly developed with its Walkman team. In addition to using professional materials such as "gold solder" and "non-magnetic resistors".
It is also confirmed that it is equipped with an "independent DAC" |
cool_sauce
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On 2025-05-17 03:50:15, tai020381 wrote:
Xperia 1vii have DAC. Sauce :
http://youtube.com/post/Ugkx3[....]mZCK_o-alP?si=RoQilQPPgSSw73Eb
Everyone!! According to official confirmation from Sony Taiwan!
The Xperia 1 VII does have an "independent DAC" but there are no further hardware details to share at this time.
*Background material:
This generation of Sony Xperia 1 VII was jointly developed with its Walkman team. In addition to using professional materials such as "gold solder" and "non-magnetic resistors".
It is also confirmed that it is equipped with an "independent DAC"
Yeah just like every previous Xperia. It's equipped with Snapdragon 8 Elite chipset Aqstic audio in chip WCD9385 and WSA8835 amp. Not too shabby. |
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Posted: 2025-05-14 20:00
