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sblantipodi
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On 2009-11-26 00:38:21, gharknes1 wrote:
must admint I tend to agrree, why on earth would anyone want 2000 photos on a phone or even a digital camera, just because you have 8gig or 16gig or whatever .... because you can lol, SE must have set a limit of some kind thinking the same thing, prob not difficult the change.
the problem is that you need to share the 3000 with
photos, images, videos and audios.
Try to think...
Only the Sygic (GPS Navigator) uses about 100 images, this images needs to be subtracted from your 3000 media files.
This is clear that 3000 files is nothing also for a "normal" user that uses a smartphone as a smart phone.
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titus1
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One should do an experiment. if anyone of you knew someone who own..say an N97, and let him copy 2000 photos into his device. if the process went smoothly then you can conclude that there was a bug in Satio. |
sblantipodi
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On 2009-11-26 00:51:56, titus1 wrote:
One should do an experiment. if anyone of you knew someone who own..say an N97, and let him copy 2000 photos into his device. if the process went smoothly then you can conclude that there was a bug in Satio.
please read the first page, one of my post there is an answer to SE to this problem.
if you have a Satio, and you care that this problem will be solved,
write to
seanswers.us@support.sonyericsson.com
and ask them to fix this problem.
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danp330
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On 2009-11-25 22:46:04, etaab wrote:
Im puzzled about why you'd want to copy 2000 images to your phone.
I got a K750 in Feb 2006, and started backing up all photos to PC in month-by-month folders, whilst copying them back onto the memory card at 50% resolution (to reduce file sizes on the memory card). I then got a K850 in November 2007 and transferred all the resized k750 photos to the new memory card and carried on the process. I did the same thing in November 2008 when I got the c905, and the same thing this year when I got the Satio.
Whilst I take around 4-5GB of photo's a year at full size, the resized photos on the memory card from 2006 to present day only take up 1.9GB. They're a great way to remember days-gone-by whilst on the move, as well as serving as a form of backup. I guess I don't really need them all on there, but I have a poor memory, and it's nice to see at a glance where we went on holiday in 2007, or what we did for so-and-so's birthday in 2008 for example!
I noticed last year the c905's Media application had problems with the sheer number of photos on the memory card, but the File Manager application would display thumbnails and happily browse through all photos in a folder so I didn't worry about it, and just ignored the Media application. However, with the Satio, not only does the File Manager fail to display thumbnails, you can only open images in a folder one-by-one with no way of scrolling through any other images. I've therefore had to revert to using the Media app instead, and delete everything except the last 5 month's worth of photos in order to keep the application running smoothly.
So no, I don't really need that many photos on there, I just do so because I can! (or could...) |
etaab
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It could just be a case of like most S60 smartphones, where if you add too manynew media files at once it can take the OS several minutes or longer to create the thumbnails, giving the impression that they're not there or cannot show.
Ive done it before with my S60 handsets. Transfer the images, exit the gallery / media app and leave the phone in standby. Check it after 10 minutes when the phone has done processing the thumbnails and they usually appear. 
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sblantipodi
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On 2009-11-27 19:31:39, etaab wrote:
It could just be a case of like most S60 smartphones, where if you add too manynew media files at once it can take the OS several minutes or longer to create the thumbnails, giving the impression that they're not there or cannot show.
Ive done it before with my S60 handsets. Transfer the images, exit the gallery / media app and leave the phone in standby. Check it after 10 minutes when the phone has done processing the thumbnails and they usually appear.
satio can't manage over 3000 media files (images, photos, audio, video).
full stop.
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norbi_nw
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now that's SH!T ... Just think about it, why do mem cards become larger? BECAUSE PHONES ARE NO LONGER PHONES, BUT(!!!!!!) ENTERTAINMENT DEVICES!! you carry photos and videos and mp3 because you never know when you want to remember some holidays, vacations, etc, and to show to other people. Thats the point of it. Now i have ~2000mp3s (you ask me i listen to all of them? and i say yes! - on the road, shuffle, and if i am with friends, some like oldies, some rock, some hip hop, so i have them all... afterall it's an ENTERTAINMENT DEVICE), so that leaves me with 1000 photos? BULLSH!T.. then what will happen when 32GB/64GB card is out? useless....??? i don't own a satio yet (my dad bought 1 this week, and when Kurara comes out, he will get 1, and leave me the satio) but i hope they fix this ASAP.
stop asking stupd questions like why you need so many XYZ on a phone.. WTH? should i carry a laptop with me + a Camera + TV + 100DVDs + etc when i could basically have them all in one device?? seems like ENTERTAINMENT UNLIMITED IS LIMITED .... 
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danp330
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On 2009-11-27 19:31:39, etaab wrote:
It could just be a case of like most S60 smartphones, where if you add too manynew media files at once it can take the OS several minutes or longer to create the thumbnails...
I'm afraid it's not as simple as that.
With less than 3000 media files, there's no problem creating photo thumbnails, even if it does take a little while 'updating' the very first time after adding large numbers of photos. With more than 3000 media files however, you don't even see any existence of new photos taken in the 'latest photo' or 'camera album' let alone any thumbnails, regardless of how long you wait.
The new photos are present on the memory card (visible through the file manager or using mass storage mode), but when you're over that '3000 media file' limit the Media app will never recognise any new files.
3000 photos alone is probably more than the 'average user' stores on their phone, but if ALL media files are included in this '3000 limit', then, as Norbi points out, people who copy their music collections to the memory card are also likely to run into this problem before long...
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etaab
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Heh, i understand that is what you have been told about the 3000 limit, but i still dont see it to be such an issue.
So you're saying if you have over 3000 images saved any pictures you take with the camera are not visible on the phone but are still saved when the memory card is read via USB or card reader ? Sounds a bit silly to me.
Funnily, from the amount of memory i have free on my memory card i set the camera to 2mp. It says i can save 9999+ images. But only 3000 of them will be visible ?
Even if this is true i dont see it affecting me at all. This issue reminds me of when many Nokia phone owners came across to SE phones and complained that you couldnt set a full length mp3 file as a ringtone - the SE would only play the first 60 secs if i remember. The debate i had back then was why on earth would you want an entire track playing wasting your battery just because of an incoming sms ?
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sblantipodi
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On 2009-11-28 22:31:01, etaab wrote:
Funnily, from the amount of memory i have free on my memory card i set the camera to 2mp. It says i can save 9999+ images. But only 3000 of them will be visible ?
Yes, the problem is that if you have 10 songs and 10 videos you can shot only 2980 photos,
if your GPS navigator uses 100 images, you can shot only 2880 photos and so on, so as you can understand 3000 multimedia files is really too few.
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etaab
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Is that what your phone says that when you take 10 pictures you can only have 2990 more no matter how high the resolution is ?
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sblantipodi
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On 2009-11-29 21:21:01, etaab wrote:
Is that what your phone says that when you take 10 pictures you can only have 2990 more no matter how high the resolution is ?
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as I just explained satio can't manage over 3000 media files, no matter if they are photos, audios, images or videos, with high or low resolution... it can't manage over 3000 files.
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altemyr
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This is somewhat off topic, but the Media Go Windows app that came with the Satio on the memory card seems to suffer with a similar problem when loading too many media files. After adding about 6000 media files to the media library (mostly mp3 music, but also many jpg images and a lot of avi film clips), it takes several minutes to add new items to the media library, and even a simple operation like opening the properties window for a video clip takes several minutes. |
etaab
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as I just explained satio can't manage over 3000 media files, no matter if they are photos, audios, images or videos, with high or low resolution... it can't manage over 3000 files.
But thats not what i asked. I'll clarify further.
If you take a picture with your phone does it say it can only take up to 3000 images no matter what size or quality they are ? or does your phone say 9999+ like mine ?
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danp330
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On 2009-11-30 22:10:48, etaab wrote:
But thats not what i asked. I'll clarify further.
If you take a picture with your phone does it say it can only take up to 3000 images no matter what size or quality they are ? or does your phone say 9999+ like mine ?
The phone unsurprisingly states 9999+ (at 2MP) as the camera application is just dividing the free space on the memory card by the average file size for photos at the selected resolution. It's not a deliberate limit that's been set across the whole phone, it's just a limitation in the way the Media app has been written.
The phone will continue to take photos until every last megabyte of memory on the card has been used up, and they WILL be saved to the memory card no problem, visible through the file manager or mass storage mode. It's just that the Media app (and this app alone) is unable to recognise more than 3000 media files | |
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