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Sony Ericsson summarizes Q2 financially |
gola Joined: Jul 17, 2007 Posts: > 500 From: South Africa PM |
...slightly better though
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Bonovox Joined: Apr 13, 2008 Posts: > 500 PM |
Yeah but i too wanna see Sony Ericsson back to how they used to be
Phone?? What phone?? |
lel0uch Joined: Feb 17, 2009 Posts: 61 PM |
Poor SE
What i like about sony ericsson is that it doesn't want to prove anything... it's more like a lifestyle |
Bonovox Joined: Apr 13, 2008 Posts: > 500 PM |
Surely Sony with their know how in the tech world would have raced ahead of the competition but its just not the case. Who's fault is it Ericsson or Sony?
Phone?? What phone?? |
lel0uch Joined: Feb 17, 2009 Posts: 61 PM |
Let see what will happen to the japanese phones satio naite, aino and yari.
[ This Message was edited by: lel0uch on 2009-07-17 02:36 ] What i like about sony ericsson is that it doesn't want to prove anything... it's more like a lifestyle |
se_dude Joined: Nov 07, 2007 Posts: > 500 PM |
Ironically, SE have better phones than that had a couple of quarters back and still they are losing ground rapidly. But just have a look at their Average selling price. It has stayed stable at 122 euros. I expect SE to do pretty well the recession gets over, which is probably aiming at a 2010 recovery. The thing that surprises me is that the C510 is ahuge success everywhere. Its cheap and provides brilliant functionality.Yet, SE are shipping lesser models. Hopefully the W995 sales will pick up in the next quarter and the At@T sales of the C905 and the W518. The W518 has the makings of a bestseller. It looks good and is a clamshell, the basis of any cellphone user in the US. It will probably come with a million colors too. |
Tsepz_GP Joined: Dec 27, 2006 Posts: > 500 From: Johannesburg, South Africa PM |
What SE should do is make a LG KS360 rival, hasnt anyone noticed how well these budget landscape slide out QWERTY phones are doing? SAMSUNG, and LG, are making a killing with them and NOKIA are joining in with the 5730xm. All SE have is the overpriced X1 on WinMo, they could have done that with the Aino, ah well.
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Bonovox Joined: Apr 13, 2008 Posts: > 500 PM |
Yes the qwerty keyboard type phones are big with the youth i think. Also despite what Sony Ericsson has done with the c510 perhaps its not selling as well as expected cos maybe consumers are wary of buying Sony Ericsson cos they still have alot of confidence to win back with the public over their poor quality control over the part few years. Lately it seems its getting better but not fully yet. |
se_dude Joined: Nov 07, 2007 Posts: > 500 PM |
Well SE is supposed to announce a few qwerty models this autumn. Thats what the CEO said ia twitter. How hard is it to make one anyway?? Just the same platform with a slide out keyboard instead of a drop down one. |
snoFlake Joined: Feb 23, 2009 Posts: 119 PM |
If they haven't bought into the W715 why is the W995 going to be a runaway success in the face of ever improving competition. As I stated in Feb Sony's product range simply hasn't kept up to date with rival offerings and the demands of new services (the killer being web access), there has been very little progress in 4+yrs and the K750/W800 and it's killing them. All the usual fanboys jumped in with their usual schtick but 2 quarters of pretty shocking figs show the reality. Dropping their own smart OS gives them no more product differentiation and a la X1 and 6.1 (which HTC managed to get onto mkt c.4 months earlier than Sony) how come it's taken since the abandonment of UIQ last spring/summer which surely they must have known they were about to implement up until autumn/winter this year to bring out a phone (Idou/Satio) utilising an OS that has been on the market since last November, selling in volume since Jan/Feb and has 2 other manufacturers using it. Too little too late, by the time the finally get product to market interest levels have always waned.
Sony now have a dreadful and possibly terminal dilema, they no longer have an integrated OS, Platform, Services and Appstore (playnow again too little too late too poor) so no revenue there and they can no longer afford to develop one even if they had the will/ability after the UIQ debacle. Thay don't have the cash or the management ability seemingly to develop phones fast enough on shared OS's (Symbian, Android, Win) to keep up with development cycles of nimbler manufatcurers. So at the moment seemed doomed to offering feature phones not enough want (before the usual suspects jump on this just re read their results; units sold and market share. How after the P800/P900 and their own research showing the increasing importance of the TS smartphone sector they have managed to go from Summer 2008 to Winter 2009 with only one TS phone (very business orientated) only SE can expain. (G900/G700 barely made it to UK and many other mkts and along with P1, support non existant after SF announcement)
Unless they can pull off a Palm (and we'll see if Palm can pull off a Palm) as predicted the train has left the station and SE not onboard. It's very convenient to blame it on the downturn but their rivals are managing to keep it together although struggling. The wonderful thing about recessions is they expose BS and companies that had problems but were papering over the cracks get found out. |
pc633 Joined: Oct 06, 2003 Posts: 13 PM |
What's wrong with SE:
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2009/birulki-18-en.shtml
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NightBlade Joined: Jul 29, 2007 Posts: > 500 From: Nessebar, Bulgaria PM |
That article is old, wrong and is, in fact, contradictory to that hater's previous statements and common sense itself.
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10123 Joined: May 29, 2008 Posts: > 500 PM |
They are doing rubbish in most countrys except the UK where they have a huge market dominance, and are usually in 1st,2nd or 3rd in the market, they were number1 in the uk for a while when the c905 was released.
Vodafone have released there top sellers list and take a look, it may come as a suprise
Vodafone UK's best sellers:
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia[....]uks_best_sellers-news-1025.php
1. Nokia N97 32GB
2. Nokia 5800 XpressMusic
3. Sony Ericsson W595
4. Sony Ericsson C510
5. Samsung S8000 Jet
6. Samsung S8300 Tocco Ultra Edition
7. Samsung L810 Steel
8. Nokia 6300
9. BlackBerry Storm 9500
10. HTC Magi
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roanmy Joined: Jan 10, 2007 Posts: 189 PM |
I hope, and think, that SE will get better in time. The thing is, they went downwards so fast, and yet, they have such a high selling price per unit, twice that of Nokia? So in SE's case, I think they actually can blame some of their troubles on the financial crisis. They are also quite high up there on operators best-seller lists.
However, I think it'll be Q2 2010 or sth until they stop losing money. |
Bonovox Joined: Apr 13, 2008 Posts: > 500 PM |
I just wish they would stop making handsets that fall apart.
Phone?? What phone?? |
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