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Deric
Joined: Oct 06, 2002
Posts: 10
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@ highrez
I hate to nit-pick but if you can do it, so can I, you terminology is off Provisioning is setting up an account, activation is the moment when you can actually use the sim, I've never heard of swisscom, but chances are their activation is done through a series of affiliates. | |
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highrez
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
Posts: 3
From: Seattle, WA
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Deric,
In the traditional telecom world provisioning means making available to facilities required for communication (either dropping copper at the dmark/niu, or making available to a circuit off of a MUX etc). This includes the loop between any two points and any provisioning of circuit switched information required. "Turnup" is what I guess would be equivalent to your "Activation". But certainly provisioning is NOT setting up the account (in the traditional telecom world). Yeah I did nit-pick his terminology, and I still think its wrong. Please read GSM 11.11 Section 4.3.2 "Activation and Deactivation". You will find that sim activation has nothing to do with the negotiatons between the handset and base station, but is a term used to describe the physical relationship between the handset and the SIM. Don't have a copy of the draft? Here you go:
http://www.ttfn.net/techno/smartcards/GSM11-11v6-2.pdf
But nit-picking is wrong, and I'm sorry for that. I'll try not to BS around with symantics in the future, as they seem to draw attention away from the bigger point. That said let me dig into this "sim activation" thing real quick. The assertion that you have to be on your home network for the sim to be activated is wrong technically, because the sim need not be provisioned to be activated. Activation occours (According to the GSM Spec!) the moment you power on a phone with a sim inserted into it. But thats REAL nit-picking.
What I disagreed with here was BigDawg implying you have to be on your home network for your sim to register the first time. This is NOT true. As long as the base station knows where to route your SubID (roaming) while registering and your carrier permits you to register (they send a pseudo registration request) on that network you will be able to register. Now thats not to say that the carrier cant block you from registering on another carriers base station, but why would they?
But what do I know, I'm not some technical support guy working for a carrier - i'm just a loley programmer who has written code USED BY THE CARRIERS. 
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Posted: 2003-01-17 21:36
