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What I miss about Sony Ericsson |
gtr83
Joined: Sep 27, 2008
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From: Indonesia
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Just like Windows 
Nokia 3520 > 6600 > W800i > W890i > C702 > C905 > BB 9500 > Samsung INNOV8 |
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gola
Joined: Jul 17, 2007
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From: South Africa
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I just  SE
"Getting wisdom is the wisest thing you can do!"
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rickster2kuk
Joined: Jul 14, 2004
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From: Southampton, UK
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Marty your experience is exactly why i moved back from my N82 to the C905.
I had the K850i and after many problems decided to move over to a Nokia, not owning one for about 6 years - previously all SE phones I have had.
I really liked the N82, it looks great and really professional and while it may be my personal preference it did prefer the silver to black.
The S60 interface takes a while to get used to but it is good, it's open source so you can add all manner of programs but I never really used to to it's full extent.
But eventually I moved back to SE, just as you stated once you get rid of your SE you do tend to miss the little things that SE offer esp in the user interface:
1. Photo viewer - spot in Marty, the S60 photo viewer is awful. You can only "slide" through the photos and can't view the whole list of thumbnails. I tried to find a 3rd party piece of software but there wasn't much around. SE photoviewer and many other phones are far better than the S60 one.
2. Text messaging - Really like the SE (and other phones) feature that allows to you "bookmark" recently used texts. It saves an awful lot of time. N82 didn't have this. Also I do like the SE feature that shows you the name of the text sender on the main screen before you open it. I know this is minor and I did live without it on the N82 but it is a nice touch.
3. Organiser/PIM function - This was a real disappointment on the S60. No file code vault (which I use all the time), notes section was poor and you couldn't even copy appointments (which is pretty basic), for a smartphone this was probably the worst part of the phone and miles behind SE.
4. Camera filenames - whilst logically this made sense naming the filenames after the date it made it a nightmare transferring them on my computer named 200807011 - they all went out of order. The SE DSC format is much easer to use.
On the plus side the camera was very good, lovely sharpness and saturation, although I did notice that the camera was hit and miss. It had a tendency in low light to blur sections of the image esp landscape shots and areas of detail. Overall this wasn't a major problem. In my opinion the C905 cam is slightly better although the N82 image was slightly sharper.
The screen was also a bit disappointing. It was big but far to dull (backlight) even on the highest setting it didn't seem bright enough. The C905 screen is a really eye-burner but great to use.
I really liked the N82 as a phone but living with SE for so long just made me realise how you miss the little things on SE and ultimately when the C905 came out I upgraded to that.
Don't get my wrong the C905 isn't perfect either (scratched keys, slider, ect) but for me the SE interface is a very rounded package and although not open source like S60 is a really fully featured interface which I think not a lot of people realise. |
NightBlade
Joined: Jul 29, 2007
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From: Nessebar, Bulgaria
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This thread warms my heart.
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marty mcfly
Joined: May 20, 2007
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Yes it's true. For all the fuss people make over S60's open-source framework, pretty much everything I needed was in the , and most importantly, in the place I needed it to be. It was such a logical layout. I often find with the N82 I have to really search to find options, or it takes many, many more key presses to get me there.
It seems like such a waste of a system really. All the people I know who have S60 phones, only use them to call and text. They have no clue whatsoever about it's potential. And I'm willing to bet, that goes for most S60 owners in general. For the average user, it is actually less functional than the interface, so where is the advantage? 
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gtr83
Joined: Sep 27, 2008
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From: Indonesia
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There is an advantage: S60 fones make u look rich lol.
Nokia 3520 > 6600 > W800i > W890i > C702 > C905 > BB 9500 > Samsung INNOV8 |
riffe
Joined: Aug 30, 2008
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well nokia have a much better charger/headset input while SE have some silly input. after a while u need to buy a new charger/headset since the old will just pop-out whole time. also nokias headset is much better and absorb muc much more than SE's |
NightBlade
Joined: Jul 29, 2007
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From: Nessebar, Bulgaria
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Nokia's headsets are better than SE's? Yeah, good luck with that.
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marty mcfly
Joined: May 20, 2007
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Well I agree totally on that point. The 3.5mm jack is an advantage, and the quality of the headphones I got with the N82 is superb. Very well built, with a built in Volume Control.
I also don't miss the stupid fastport on the side of the phone. Made much more sense when it was on the bottom, out of the way.
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tbroe
Joined: Jan 02, 2008
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This is the reason I don't wanna leave SE although they arn't actually making any phones that fit my needs as well as offerings from Samsung. I am just hesitating as I felt really guilty when I got a U600 and missed SE's quirks. However I dont think SE are as good as they were ): |
riffe
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@nightblade
i didt ment sound quality. if i want sound quality i could just buy a koss headset for about 30euro and plugg in the 3.5mm jack. while in SE u need to buy the SE headset AND a koss headset. and thats not all after about 5-7 months the SE headset will stay in, it will just popout the whole time or it just stops to play which is annoying. in 2 year i hade to buy 5x Se headset. the one i have atm is broken in 2 places since its a nice headset (volym control and display on it) i didt just throw it away instand i fix it.
i start to think that SE build weak headset just so ppl buy a new one after 6-8 months due to headset monopoly on SE phones. |
adsada
Joined: Aug 23, 2008
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From: Scotland
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Haha you about covered everything, what's good about N82? 
I was a Nokia user but switched to SE (the K850i) and haven't looked back, amazing interface is so simple. Love you SE... |
larry 68
Joined: Nov 09, 2007
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I've honestly never given a thought to how different Nokia and SE are until this very week when my K850i had to be sent back for repair and I'm now forced to use my new works Nokia 6300.
OMG they are poles apart in user friendliness, I agree totally with Marty on the points raised, I soooooo miss my SE. |
tbroe
Joined: Jan 02, 2008
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I remember when I got my W900, I didn't even read the user guide and just 'knew' how to use it. I previously had old nokias and one motorola, which was awful. However using my friends nokia made me realise how they've changed.
Plus, has anyone noticed that Samsung, Nokia and LG all have the same sort of layout for their UI? Dol they all use symbian. Probably sound thick saying this (: |
incoming
Joined: May 27, 2008
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Not all Nokias are Symbian S60 phones. Someone mentioned Nokia 6300, a S40 phone. They are a bit simpler and more similar to other feature phones.
All newish phones from the different makes are basically similar when it comes to the user interface. But those differences and quirks found in the phones makes people prefer one from the other. |
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Posted: 2008-12-28 09:41
