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On 2008-11-26 09:48:00, adnansanni wrote:
Yeah buddy I know that, but it is provide all feature like DSLR.
From buy.com here are some lines:
“When is an SLR not an SLR? When it's a Canon S5. The S5 certainly looks like one with its large lens, chunky handgrip, hotshoe for external flash and enough switches and dials to start a science experiment. This SLR-lookalike is a capable compact with a superb lens, and turns out quality images”
yes but it doesn't have through the lense optical view finding (superior to lcd view finder in the opinion of many), the key hallmark of an SLR camera. NOr does it have the ability to change lenses, the OTHER main hallmark of an SLR.
There are many prosumer cameras with very good quality but this is not what makes an SLR.
On 2008-11-26 08:06:28, blackspot wrote:
There are lots of DSLRs from lots of brands to choose from ranging from entry (1.6x sensor crop) level to top of the line (full size sensor) -- depending on your needs and the type of photography you are in to or planning to.
Just remember that once you have solved the "which DSLR to buy" problem, you'll be hooked on the "which lens to buy" predicament. 
I agree, personally I have the Olympus E420 which is astounding value for money given the superb quality. However the poster did ask about DSLR's that can run on AA batteries, suc as the K200D (which I think is one of the few if not only DSLR that takes AA)
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@max_wedge: If it does have through the lense optical view finding then it’ll be a SLR. And I never said S5-IS is a DSLR. It is just take decent picture on their price tag and with AA that’s all. |
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thanks for the help guys ....i think i'm going to pic one of this 2, Nikon d40 or the Pentax k200d
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On 2008-11-26 17:31:20, adnansanni wrote:
@max_wedge: If it does have through the lense optical view finding then it’ll be a SLR.
Please don't try to make me look like an idiot, I know that, I've been using SLR's for over 20 years. If it's NOT an SLR then it's NOT what the original poster asked about. Please go back and read the original post.
If someone asks about an SLR then I assume they expect the features of an SLR, regardless of quality. I know there are many excellent non-slr cameras out there, but they DO NOT have the advantages of an SLR.
You said the canon S5is has the features of a SLR - wrong - the S5is DOES NOT have ttl optical viewfinding nor does it have interchangeable lenses.
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Aside from the absence of the pentaprism or mirrors for through-the-lens viewing and the interchangeable lenses, most of these sub-compacts with superzooms don't have large enough image sensors to provide good quality images even at high iso (under low lighting). They usually end up giving you a lot of noise at ISO 400 and up. Real SLRs/DSLRs can produce superior quality images even at high ISO (ISO 800 and up) even without flash.
Let me also add that Fujifilm DSLRs have several models using AA batteries such as the Fujifilm FinePix IS-1, Fujifilm FinePix S3 Pro and other older S Pro models.
Surprisingly the newer Pentax KM (K2000) also uses 4AA batteries. Cool!
Other DSLR models like Canon have grips that can hold an optional backup power using AA batteries -- that could be another option...
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you are right about that, the iso ability of sensors makes high iso useful only on the large sensors found in slr's.
I wasn't aware fujifilm used AA, and of course you are right about handheld grips. Though for an entry level user they may be constrained by cost and not be in a position to buy accessories immediately after purchasing a camera.
Myself, I'm still waiting to afford a flash and macro lense after buying my Olympus E420.  fortunately it came with an versitile lens kit.
I'll also be buying a Pentax K200D for the AA option, and also to utilise my dad's K mount lenses and flashes. I probably should have bought this first, but I liked the E420 small size.
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@ lucispower, be aware that if you do go with the Nikon D40 you need lenses that have the AF motors built in, AF-S and AF-I type, the d40 does not have the AF motor system built into the camera body so the lenses require it for the Auto focus to work.
Not telling which camera to buy here but there are some good bargains to be had in the second hand market right now with people trading in for newer models, i got my Nikon D70 for under £200, its only 6.1MP but its a large sensor and is going to be better than a compact or bridge type camera, there are a good few Canon models out there too but not sure on the AA batt requirement for them.
The sony A200 model you mentioned earlier gets very good reviews and there are some places doing it as a twin lens kit, you get the camera body along with a 18-70 and 70-300 zoom lenses all for around £400, the camera will accept most of the older minolta AF glass too and they are quite cheap second hand but are excellent quality
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@max_wedge: bro you got me wrong. I didn’t try to make you look like an idiot. I just said on that post it is not SLR and doesn’t get premium feature like have through the lense optical view finding.
Don’t need to go back and read the original post, I did advice to him/her to read some reviews and compares, study about specification then decide to buy which one. I didn’t advice to get S5-IS.
There are some features which also present on SLR, that’s all. Every car (all most) has 4 wheels and that’s not mean BMW and Suzuki Maruti is same. Original poster also knew that. So you don’t have to become angry. |
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sorry mate, my bad.
I guess I just think the guy asked about what SLR, so therefore was looking of a camera that has those particular features that set SLR's apart from other digicams.
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No problemo  |
Luci'sPower
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Ok,i think i finally made up my mind, i'm going to buy one of these 4 on sunday :Nikon D40,Nikon D60,Sony A200,Olympus e410......i don't care about AA batteries no more......so if you have any advice in which one i should buy on sunday just say te pros and cons...Thank you
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Any of those in the list will make an ideal 1st dslr, theres not much between any of them although some will have features the others will not like "live view" etc. It is worth considering future lens purchases tho, obviously the bigger the name the bigger the choice (for brand glass), 3rd party lenses are a good choice and the range for all fits is very big.
If you can get any of the above for a good price in "kit" form maybe with an extra lens you not go far wrong. Spend the weekend reading reviews of those on your list, dpreview is a good place to start.
Be good to hear what you do choose 
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Luci'sPower
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well these are the prices and offers in my country
Nikon D40 :342 euros with a 18-55mm kit
Nikon D60: 440 euros with a 18-55mm kit
Sony A200: 415 euros with a 18-70mm kit
Olympus E410 :395 euros with a 14-42mm kit and a 40-150mm kit
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Well on price alone i would go with the Olympus for the 2 lenses, out of the nikons the D60 is the better camera as the D40 is a bit long in the tooth now, the sony is somewere in the middle with the advantage of using older minolta AF lenses.
I dont envy you mate, its a difficult choice now with a market flooded with lots of good choice models, no one makes a "bad" slr camera these days especially digital ones, you have to cut thru the "opinion" and brand loyalty. I would recommend going to anyware local to you that stocks those models and getting some "hands on" time with them so you can assess build quality etc
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thanks streetgang you've been really helpful
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