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nomad84
Joined: Oct 08, 2008
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UIQ is not SF and also devices from the new SF OS WILL NOT be UIQ backward compatible. Exactly what are you saying?
I didn't read the announcement, I thought they'll open the sources before they merge the code, actually they'll just share between each other.. this is sad, but anyways, I'm not that pessimistic then you are, I hope that they will provide some great apps in new motorola phones, and probably these apps could be backported to our old UIQ phones as well.
Btw the announcement, in step by step (just the interesting part):
- The acquisition of Symbian Limited by Nokia, expected to close in Q4, 2008, subject to regulatory approvals and customary closing conditions.
- Software assets are contributed to the foundation, including Symbian OS and S60 by Nokia, UIQ technology by Motorola and Sony Ericsson and MOAP(S) by NTT DOCOMO and Fujitsu.
- This contributed software will be available under a royalty-free license to foundation members from the first day of Symbian Foundation operations, expected 1H 2009.
- The Foundation will work to unify the platform, with the first unified foundation release expected in 2009.
- The foundation will work to make the platform available in open source by June 2010 (two years from the Symbian Foundation announcement)
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mazi
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Very sad..story is over and IMO we can find only one guilty : SE for sure
When others like nokia and samsung always grow up and use fast Cpu and good thing like very good camera ( at least nokia have 10 handset smartphone with 5 mpx..at least samsung have 5 handset with 5 mpx now..) very good video recording...at least nokia 10 handset with VGA 30/15 fps...like samsung...
but we have only G900 with ancient QVGA 15 fps...really funny....
when nokia use dual arm11 on high-end at least on 10 device .samsung too..SE stick with cpu of P990 ( 4 years old) why? what that mean? very difficult to underestand customers want fast device?
Shame on SE....really destroy the best os I have seen on handset...why? with F*cking managment and poor strategi ..they dont even know what they want.....Damn...Damn...
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Tsepz_GP
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Unlucky for UIQ3 Users.
On 2008-10-22 20:35:22, nomad84 wrote:
On 2008-10-22 20:26:17, QVGA wrote:
The right move IMO. Move onto a OS that people like using i.e S60
I prefer UIQ, and a lots of us as well. S60 is a different story, it's developed for use with phone key input only, UIQ is a fully touchscreen based interface. There is only one better phone user interface on the market (comparing with UIQ 3.3): Mac OS X. It's far more intuitive in some basic tasks, and it's much faster, but probably it's because it got a much faster hardware as well.
S60 designed for phone key input only? LMFAO! Oh please.  ever heard of the NOKIA 5800XM S60 Touchscreen 
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On 2008-10-22 20:55:37, mazi wrote:
Very sad..story is over and IMO we can find only one guilty : SE for sure
When others like nokia and samsung always grow up and use fast Cpu and good thing like very good camera ( at least nokia have 10 handset smartphone with 5 mpx..at least samsung have 5 handset with 5 mpx now..) very good video recording...at least nokia 10 handset with VGA 30/15 fps...like samsung...
but we have only G900 with ancient QVGA 15 fps...really funny....
when nokia use dual arm11 on high-end at least on 10 device .samsung too..SE stick with cpu of P990 ( 4 years old) why? what that mean? very difficult to underestand customers want fast device?
Shame on SE....really destroy the best os I have seen on handset...why? with F*cking managment and poor strategi ..they dont even know what they want.....Damn...Damn...
i agree with you mazi...
for the past 2 years they are being used to implement old tech into new shells...
but i think the effects of the changes in the management will reveal themselves in 2009....
i will hold any judgments until the end of Q1 2009. (and to see what actually the symbian Foundation OS is capable of..)
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well i have followed uiq since the first p phone and i love them, i love my p1i so much it they go down in price now, then i will be buying a few to keep for the time to come, only over the past 4 months has this phone really come into a league of its own with all the mods and apps, personally still love it to bits, even more than my iphone, and to punkid yes i dont see a problem with buying a p1i at all, we was hardling awaiting a new FW anyway, all the mods that are being released are fantastic, go ahead treat your self i no ill be buying another for future 
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nomad84
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S60 designed for phone key input only? LMFAO! Oh please. :lol: ever heard of the NOKIA 5800XM S60 Touchscreen :)
Just stop laughing that loud, it took 7 years for them to develop a usable touchscreen interface, UIQ 2.0 was the mainstream UIQ version at that time, of course with full touchscreen support.
And anyways, I cannot buy 5800 since it is just an upcoming product, so, yes I heard about it, but it just another iphone clone with worse user interface..
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myth
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On 2008-10-22 21:16:04, GUCCI.011 wrote:
S60 designed for phone key input only?
Correct. Up to 3th edition FP2 at least..
ever heard of the NOKIA 5800XM S60 Touchscreen
Yeah, but we only heard, read and watched it, just like you.
The 5th edition is touch optimized and you might agree that it differs a lot from the latest non-touch UI version.
I can understand that Nokia fanboys are overly excited in these days, but praising a phone which isn't even out yet is just funny.
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tranced
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sad news this. we just have to wait till the new OS comes from the foundation. i was really enjoying the uiq because of the mods made these late months.
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Tsepz_GP
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On 2008-10-22 21:50:49, myth wrote:
On 2008-10-22 21:16:04, GUCCI.011 wrote:
S60 designed for phone key input only?
Correct. Up to 3th edition FP2 at least..
ever heard of the NOKIA 5800XM S60 Touchscreen
Yeah, but we only heard, read and watched it, just like you.
The 5th edition is touch optimized and you might agree that it differs a lot from the latest non-touch UI version.
I can understand that Nokia fanboys are overly excited in these days, but praising a phone which isn't even out yet is just funny.
and knowing NOKIA they will NOT let their FIRST Touchscreen S60 be a disappointment, from what ive seen it looks great. and will support current s60v3 apps, but obviously it will have bugs which they will iron out unlike this other company.
Nomad
If the 5800xm was just another iPhone clone it would be missing A LOT of basic features. 
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mazi
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On 2008-10-22 21:39:01, nomad84 wrote:
S60 designed for phone key input only? LMFAO! Oh please. ever heard of the NOKIA 5800XM S60 Touchscreen
Just stop laughing that loud, it took 7 years for them to develop a usable touchscreen interface, UIQ 2.0 was the mainstream UIQ version at that time, of course with full touchscreen support.
And anyways, I cannot buy 5800 since it is just an upcoming product, so, yes I heard about it, but it just another iphone clone with worse user interface..
Now I have G900 but when 5800 is come I go for that...dont forget only 1 month to release..not like SE strategi...announce now and release 6 month later!!
why? for such price or even less I can get VGA 30 Fps and decent 3.2 mpx camera...3.2 inch screen and very powerfull Cpu..also TV out and 3.5 mm...8 gig memory card and more and more...
sorry guys ...dont want start nokia VS SE and I actually SE fanboy for at least 5 years but ...hey..this is our money that waste on failur SE products and dont get good deal...
nokia start VGA recording from 6280 (2005) if Im not mistaken...but now on end of 2008 we dont even see feauters phone like cyber-shot with VGA recording...only QVGA..even on high-end like C905-c902 along smartphones...well done SE!! only X1
nokia start use fast cpu from N90 ARM 9 and now with n95 8 gig and 5800 ARM11 and for sure on future even faster...but what SE done? all of you know dont need to repeat...
SE what do u think? really what do u think? u can countinue this plan to 2015? dont want change? ppls r blind? dont see other products like Omnia,N96,N95 8 gig,Innov 8,I7710,Iphone, more more more....
sorry guys...this is just my opinion...
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Mazi
I totaly agree
My K850 was the last straw.
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5nak3
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this is sad news and it upsets me because i've just had one UIQ devive and i must admit it truely is a great device. i agree that SE have screwed themselves because of a lack of support.
but the fact is if the other devices do not meet the criteria of the user no matter what specs it has, it is of no use.
for me as tranced and trev have said the P1 has come into its own very recenctly. i feel as a device to suit my needs and there is nothing on the market that does meet my needs as well as the P1 does. and to this end there is no need for me to move away despite the lack of official support
i would love to have an updated UIQ with updated specs and much needed support. But this doesn't seem it will happen, and until i can find something that does replace my p1 i'd be glad to hold onto my old uiq device and maybe the talented modders out there can continue to make good use of it. |
blerk
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If they release the UIQ3 code to the public (open source/GPL) then the possibilities will be endless, and I'm sure lot of programmers will work on it and create exciting new applications and (try to) port UIQ3 to other devices.
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tranced
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I was gonna to say the same. Android is now open source regardless that it is a new OS.
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ares
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Well UIQ its dead for new devices not for its current users. An example: monday 3 new apps come out one them being the awesome opera 9.5 that its not even finished. I think there is still things to make us happy.
Of course i might look into the 5800 if its really low price (never thought considering a nokia) but i love my p1 to bits.
Finally if they released uiq code as open source it would be really cool
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