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c96sthl
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me to critize Eldar comment on SE but one thing
he is around as long as ESATO...I think i first come across his site in 2002 or 2003
honestly same time as i know there's this forum call ESATO while the member on ESATO is small..... so the comment that he keep on attack SE product is not true.
but one thing i dislike is.... and I hope he got proof is on W595 keypad crack??? If he haven't crack one like we all experienced on W580 then he should not put the title of same problem etc etc...i hope i got him wrong but honestly if many other site comment the plastic quality is good...why only he comment it is no good.
yes SE latest platform is not tht good but i think he gone too far in commenting.... comon....i get so upset on Samsung F330 and Nokia N76 plastic quality...those are total rubbish...within 2 days got scratch or the chrome layer is coming off... those are poor quality. I never experience bad quality yet on SE product and I use SE or Ericsson product long enough to say it.....tht is the section which make me really dislike his review now.
especially if he is not a mechanical engineer.....I have no comment about his point of view for software...... |
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On 2008-08-02 16:38:08, X-Ter wrote:
Its my favourite mobile phone site but lately I'm beginning to get annoyed by Eldar. I don't mind him saying a few negative things about SE but at the moment he has nothing positive to say. The phones they are releasing are not as bad as he makes them out to be. I completely disagree with him about the W302 for example.
Also he cannot say anything wrong about Nokia. True, a few years ago he wasn't saying anything wrong about SE but he wasn't exactly attacking Nokia the way he is attacking SE right now. He needs to realise that a lot of people take him seriously and he is very influential so he really needs to become unbiased again.
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I'm one of the biggest SE fanboys and I have nothing positive to say about SE atm. Eldar's probably a bigger one than myself and that's what all the tough loving is for, at least someone SE's directly listening to is representing us on our disappointments. Just let him do his work on keeping SE on their toes, we should be cheering instead of bashing the guy. Let him influence those people into not buying SE (which I'm powerless of doing), affect their sales and give them their wake up call-again!
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bluechips
Joined: Oct 25, 2004
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i dont read eldar's reviews anymore, if he is getting bias to his reviews then he has a problem.. he should stop giving reviews if thats the case.
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yoshi77
Joined: Aug 06, 2003
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Eldar definitely did not attack SE all along, and his reviews are still dependable. Probably the least biased reviews you will find. He just calls it like he sees it. In the past, he was always praising SE for their innovation. Now he feels like they are lacking that aspect. That's what I gathered from this quote from his W902 review:
"P.S. If some of you think that I’m being harsh in this write-up – you are spot on. I just can’t stand what they have done to one of the market’s finest line-up in no time after 5 years of development and hard work. They had a wake-up call back in 2007. Apparently, they didn’t hear it." |
naveedaziz83
Joined: Nov 15, 2007
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anger and hate for SE have consumed him .. he is an agent of the dark side ...
and the force is strong with him ... 
hehe just kidding .. sorry for being off-topic
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ardzuna
Joined: Jan 16, 2008
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On 2008-08-02 14:36:05, Fanofmodi wrote:
Sometimes i feel he is paid by nokia or samsung. And he thinks people will only believe him.
I have the same feeling too, you don't need to go any further than the first page: his preview Hands-on with Nokia N96 in the top right corner and Review of GSM/UMTS-smartphone Nokia N78, S60 3rd edition Feature Pack 2 and Samsung G810 - new flagship reviews in the top left corner of mobile-review home page have been there for quite some time now.
I don't think that all this advertising comes for free and I'm almost certain that he received some money from Nokia and Samsung, the only question is how much. Not little I guess, but then again he has to make a living somehow so I don't blame him. Just don't take his biased reviews too seriously, trust yourself and your experience with SE. I had been using the N95 until a few weeks ago when I bought my current phone P1 and I'm so much more happy and satisfied now with this SE phone than I was with the N95. Just think for yourself and don't take Eldar's (p)reviews for granted.
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Mr Miyagi
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who is this elder person btw?
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makbil
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I am a long time SE user and have used almost all the "P" series phones. Innovation stopped at SE during the P990, it was a brilliant design but was left half finished and SE had no problems letting it stay that way.
Show me one single SE device in the past 2 years that is truly innovative.
If P1 is supposed to be the successor of the P990 (which I do not accept but...) then it should build up on P990's features, not take away features and capabilities.
There is no excuse for the way the P990 and the K850 were shipped. I agree with Eldar in his reviews and it gives me hope yet if SE really does listen to what he's saying. It would only be to SE's advantage to learn about what they are doing wrong and try to correct it.
Just a thought, could it be that there are Nokia and Samsung reviews only because SE doesn't have a device that can compete with these? It's sad how SE has regressed in 2 years.
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Arne Anka
Joined: Nov 05, 2003
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On 2008-08-02 15:17:25, Brightspark wrote:
i don't think he has any bias.
I beg to differ. Just compare with the reviews done by Michael at MobileBurn and perhaps you'll se what I mean.
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bluechips
Joined: Oct 25, 2004
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so if this is the case he is not a reliable source anymore.
people should avoid his reviews...
he is getting generalized to SE.
he needs to wake up to. |
nik64
Joined: Feb 11, 2007
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On 2008-08-02 22:29:08, ardzuna wrote:
On 2008-08-02 14:36:05, Fanofmodi wrote:
Sometimes i feel he is paid by nokia or samsung. And he thinks people will only believe him.
I have the same feeling too, you don't need to go any further than the first page: his preview Hands-on with Nokia N96 in the top right corner and Review of GSM/UMTS-smartphone Nokia N78, S60 3rd edition Feature Pack 2 and Samsung G810 - new flagship reviews in the top left corner of mobile-review home page have been there for quite some time now.
I don't think that all this advertising comes for free
Agree. In their site they had promotional campaigne with LG - just an example.
I could not accept the same market behavior - "stamping as on conveyor" very similar models with different numbers, in case of SE to be bad, but in case of Nokia to be perfect.
Generally I could agree that SE stopped it's develpoment - for example UIQ.
Do you think there is nothing to improve and that is the cause P1 and G700/900 to be so similar - one year later?
Or the funny story with Xperia and HTC Diamond?
Is there normal person who would state: "Our device (X1) is premium one, so we put that high price and do not target high market share".
And this when Diamond is on the market since June?!!!
Yes, it hasn't QWERTY, but Diamond Pro is going.....
And who would rely on his rival to produce this high-tech device?
There are many questions about SE management.
But they are hard to answer. |
makbil
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On 2008-08-03 04:21:17, bluechips wrote:
so if this is the case he is not a reliable source anymore.
people should avoid his reviews...
he is getting generalized to SE.
he needs to wake up to.
Actually his reviews only confirm my opinion. You guys are not doing SE any favors by being the yes-man for everything they do. SE needs to be criticized so they can get back on track and start producing the innovative and leading edge products we've been missing for 2+ years.
P990i: A mistake, a curse and a disgrace  So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD |
se_dude
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Yea, SE needs to be criticized. Are you guys out of ur freakin mind. If you dont inspire a company and continually critisize them, what do u think will happen??
Take for example a kid. If one keeps pon critisizing him, do you think he will improve?? I dont think so. I have seen only criticizm and no inspiration from the Likes oF Eldar. Hes acting more like a prick nowadays.
And yea, critisize SE..its fine. But cummon, do so with relevant facts atleast. The one regarding the C905 was gruesome. He completely blasted SE by saying that C905 uses a samsung sensor, when it actually uses a Sony Exmor sensor. Now you anti-SE fanboys.What do you have to say of that??
The he vented his anger on the Xperia by saying that its a piece of crap. Man.This man is indispensable. |
Ranjith
Joined: Dec 07, 2004
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@se dude
did eldar review Xperia?
I  ESATO I W1i  T20,T65, P800(2x),K800,Z300,  800, 850 (2x),P1i(with WALKMAN) |
adnansanni
Joined: Dec 07, 2006
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We all made threads after threads about complain about our se phones but what is the result? Nothing. Cause SE doesn’t care his customer after sales the product. It’s really nice to have somebody talk about their quality nowadays in big sites. SE hasn’t offer anything good in last two years but other companies do. If you say, SE did some good job with their low end phone then I’ll tell you just compare these low end phone to others companies low end phones. If SE is good as it before then why the company lost huge dramatically sales profits in last two terms? Because people are now stop buying products from SE as much they did before. I don’t believe one model like Xperia will make turn on SE future. SE has to makes lots innovative and quality products these days.
I read elder all articles since 2003/2004 and never he makes me feel that he fever to some particular company. |
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Posted: 2008-08-02 18:34
So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD 
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