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Why is no one offering more than 256K colors |
strizlow800
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On 2008-07-07 19:26:23, QVGA wrote:
Samsung displays are almost similar, or better than SE's. I'm not talking about the big touch screen phones, but the U700, U900 or D900
Nope, I still think  's displays are better 
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Amras
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On 2008-07-08 07:36:51, strizlow800 wrote:
On 2008-07-07 19:26:23, QVGA wrote:
Samsung displays are almost similar, or better than SE's. I'm not talking about the big touch screen phones, but the U700, U900 or D900
Nope, I still think 's displays are better
Agree. The latest SEs screens are really good. Brighter, better saturation, better viewing angle, better white-black colors (meaning better contrast), better view in direct sunlight, than Samsung's latest phones.
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strizlow800
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Better view in direct sunlight... YEAH, that's what I want the most about 's displays... You can use the phone on direct sunlight without having any problems...
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Some manufacturers use 16M screens just for marketing. It's like the megapixel race, the more doesn't mean the better. If someone buys a phone, and cannot decide between the two, the 18bit and 24bit screens might make him/her buy the "better" one.
Also if you think you need a better screen, create a gradient image in photoshop, gimp, etc, make it a vertical gradient, from white to black. If you can spot the exact lines when the color is changed, you might need a 24bit screen, otherwise definitely not. (if you make a gradient, it means you will see 256 different shades of white/black. On a 16bit screen only 64 shades can be seen, which means if the image is also 256 pixel height, every 4 rows will have the exact color, only the 5th one will be different. If you can spot this "jump" in colors, then you have good eyes 
And also note that phones usually work in 16bit mode and switch to higher bit modes (18bit or 24bit) only when watching images (for performance and memory reasons). |
spine6
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Don't be fooled by the digits.. just like 18bit and 24bit.. more colours heavy processing.. means slow performance.. 18bit is enough for a phone.. |
jakontil
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should have said, TFT screen 16M colors on their spec, and people will stop arguing
imho, 262k color screen can compete with the likes of 16m of any other given brand at the moment, though i see no reason why shouldn't start producing one, and see how the quality goes pretty much the same imo |
strizlow800
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And then new problems appear.. Why if the platform they are curently using (A200) doesn't allow this? It will need more powerful processor to handle that much information about the display...
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JAGUY85
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I do concur that the use of so-called 16m screens has a lot to do with marketing especially for Nokia. For how can so-called 256k screens "outshine" their 16m screens?
Makes no sense. Unless the difference justified it it would be otherwise, but we are yet to see this.
But then...would they really go to such lengths to mislead the public? Wouldn't it be unlawful? Or maybe their 16m are just inferior for some strange reason...
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Guto_ViP
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I prefer 16m colors... i think more vivid (comparate with my K800 display)
I dont care about battery... have charger for this.... 
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gavster001
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not really much difference in screen beyond 262K, especially in less than 3" screen, unless of course you have a bionic eye which differentiate these colors.
IMHO, the important factor is the backlight and how these screen renders the colors (color saturation, contrast, sharpness, etc) |
Amras
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On 2008-07-11 16:52:39, Guto_ViP wrote:
I prefer 16m colors... i think more vivid (comparate with my K800 display)
I dont care about battery... have charger for this....
don't compare with k800. k800 is just too washed out. there's huge difference between k800 era and latest era of SE phones.
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NightBlade
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On 2008-07-11 22:30:14, Amras wrote:
On 2008-07-11 16:52:39, Guto_ViP wrote:
I prefer 16m colors... i think more vivid (comparate with my K800 display)
I dont care about battery... have charger for this....
don't compare with k800. k800 is just too washed out. there's huge difference between k800 era and latest era of SE phones.
True, my K810's display sucks big time when I compare it to the display of my mom's W890. The W890 has much more vivid colours and deeper blacks (as in, almost OLED-like-pitch-black). Currently, I believe that SE produces the best displays.
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Guto_ViP
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On 2008-07-11 21:48:47, gavster001 wrote:
not really much difference in screen beyond 262K, especially in less than 3" screen, unless of course you have a bionic eye which differentiate these colors.
IMHO, the important factor is the backlight and how these screen renders the colors (color saturation, contrast, sharpness, etc)
I think i have bionic eyes... 
On 2008-07-11 22:30:14, Amras wrote:
On 2008-07-11 16:52:39, Guto_ViP wrote:
I prefer 16m colors... i think more vivid (comparate with my K800 display)
I dont care about battery... have charger for this....
don't compare with k800. k800 is just too washed out. there's huge difference between k800 era and latest era of SE phones.
Ok, but my lasted phone has one K800 (that's why of comparasion)...
Anyway, if battery is over... i put on charger for three hours (complete charge).
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A good example of a very sharp clear bright 16 million colour screen is the Nokia 6300. Its display is one of the best i seen. Some are better than others but i have seen fantastic 16 million ones and some 262k ones that are just as good. But for battery power i would rather have a 262k one. Though comparing a K800 next to a 6300 display the K800 looks dull. |
Amras
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On 2008-07-12 02:51:00, Bonovox wrote:
A good example of a very sharp clear bright 16 million colour screen is the Nokia 6300. Its display is one of the best i seen. Some are better than others but i have seen fantastic 16 million ones and some 262k ones that are just as good. But for battery power i would rather have a 262k one. Though comparing a K800 next to a 6300 display the K800 looks dull.
6300 is not the best actually. Far from the best. Trust me. ^^
Maybe you should have seen K660 (or Z770, G502) first.
This is my friend's two month old 6300 (it's black 6300, so it's kinda new released) - and my ex-K660 (which was stolen!):
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Still think 6300 is very sharp and bright?
The difference is quite huge in term of backlight brightness, and color balance (6300 is so purplish), not to mention the colors saturation and rendering, contrast, black-white point, and of course viewing angle. SE latest proprietary phones have superb viewing angle from any side.
p.s. I have also posted in another thread here couple of months ago comparison between S500 - K770 - 6120 Classic (which also one of the best Nokia's screens todays), which of course show the dominance of SE's latest displays (and the dullness of SE's displays in K800 era ).
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Posted: 2008-07-08 07:36
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