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G900 Another disappoinment? G900vsN82vsSamsung Soul |
Keiki
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@abu
Its clear that G series emphasize the organizer function with not so new hardware powered w/ old 208mhz processor.
While the N82 spec itself almost outperform all of G900 spec. Its clear that N82 intended for power user, from the look at the 330mhz and carlzeis w/xenon flash.
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AbuBasim
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On 2008-04-15 07:25:00, Keiki wrote:
@abu
Its clear that G series emphasize the organizer function with not so new hardware powered w/ old 208mhz processor.
While the N82 spec itself almost outperform all of G900 spec. Its clear that N82 intended for power user, from the look at the 330mhz and carlzeis w/xenon flash.
Then we should expect the G900 to be well below in price compared to the N82?
I think SE are hurting themselves by producing smartphones where some of the features, like camera or multimedia software are of less quality and then producing specialized phones where the same features are among the best, i.e. Cyber-shot in the K-series or Walkman in the W-series. They miss the users that want a truly converged device. Nokia has understood this and produces phones like N82 and the upcoming N96 where ALL parts are good. If I had to choose between the G900 and the N82, would there ever be any moment where the G900 would be in favour? LOL!
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Keiki
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@abu
I thinh G900 price will be below N82.
it seems G900 positioned as average all round solution a-la  its intended for average joe and first time pda user. |
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N78 is coming in less than a month.Its a really good device and its going to give these G series a tough time. |
razec
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On 2008-04-15 07:36:46, AbuBasim wrote:
Then we should expect the G900 to be well below in price compared to the N82?
I think SE are hurting themselves by producing smartphones where some of the features, like camera or multimedia software are of less quality and then producing specialized phones where the same features are among the best, i.e. Cyber-shot in the K-series or Walkman in the W-series. They miss the users that want a truly converged device. Nokia has understood this and produces phones like N82 and the upcoming N96 where ALL parts are good. If I had to choose between the G900 and the N82, would there ever be any moment where the G900 would be in favour? LOL!
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As far as i know N96 camera is a downgrade, just look at it's focal length and it suggests a smaller sensor installed. even the processor itself is imo weaker than the one installed on N95 and i can safely say they downgraded the battery performance as well - so i think not all N96's parts are good 
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Keiki
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Its a global downgrade campaign i suppose  |
shyam335
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Nope,N96 has a new platform and slightly different target.
N96 has hardware acceleration for VGA h264 at 30fps and maybe also VC-1,not entirely sure about this tho. (hint DVB-H  )
Compare it to N95's H264 QVGA/CIF.
On top of that its FP2 device,according to nokia it has longer video and music playback capability.
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darknoob
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On 2008-04-15 07:55:00, Keiki wrote:
@abu
I thinh G900 price will be below N82.
it seems G900 positioned as average all round solution a-la its intended for average joe and first time pda user.
yep, Eldar said in that article that G900 will be 350USD its 100-150USD less than N82 |
hgautam
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Just like I mentioned in one of the recent topics. The thread's title could have been "camera comparison between N82, U900 and G900." But thats not the case here.
Anyways, G900 isn't a perfect phone and does have few shortcomings, like the camera, processor, lack of EDGE and HSDPA. But otherwise it's a great phone and those who compare it with N82, keep in mind that G900 is quite compact in comparison. For the size of the phone I do not think it is a dissappointment but definitely a good all rounder. As for U900 I think it will be atleast as costly as G900 or N82 and even it lacks in features compared to N82 and G900. |
makbil
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So, are the new G series just the same platform as the P990/P1 just dressed differently? Everyone keeps expecting something spectacular from SE but they seem to warm up and serve the same stuff for the last two years.
SE fan boys don't like to hear this but in the mean time its competitors are improving on their specifications. SE is running out of time to come up with innovative products. Nothing I've seen so far from SE is innovative.
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@makbil- that's exactly what it is! SE are trying to make money out of their old technology that is still lying around since the p990i. |
5nak3
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I had a play with the G phones (if memory serves me right) at the Store day on High Street Kensington, they were really nice phones and while I couldn't put the phone through all its paces i must admit it was styled in such a way to appeal to a more mass market.
The fact it has a d-pad like thing shows the intention to appeal to a wider audience, coming from a P1 onto the G series i completely forgot about the touchscreen and found myself using the d-pad. I think the important thing to remember is that these are not flagship devices (which i guess isn't saying much anymore) but I feel these are a way of SE increasing their UIQ userbase.
It is upsetting to see the same tech being rehashed over and over, but how much do you think it bothers normal consumers? When i got the P1 it was my first SE/UIQ device, so to me it was a change from the dumbphones i've owned. My guess is SE looks at the market and thinks if we can get more people onto the UIQ platform even if it means releasing the same tech in a new package for the average user then it gives us a wider target audience for our flagship UIQ devices.
Too be fair, the fact many of us are on this forum does suggest we have slightly more knowledge about tech than many other consumers so it comes as no surprise we feel the phone is a disappointment.
For the majority of consumers they see 5mp camera, slim good looking package and touchscreen and they jump at the opportunity at owning the device.
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chombos1
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after reading the MR review... i can clearly say that the lens on the G900 heavily suffers from smudge on the lens (less likely) or the sensor is a defective one (more likely)
this kind of horrible defects (spread ed light on the whole image) usually are visible when one of the above mentioned occures.
so i say that the release version will have a much better quality than this.
(but i think even with a good condition sensor... it will never catch the N82 in terms of image quality) |
Keiki
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Yep, for me camera isnt that important.
If i want to have real shot, i have my canon eos.
I just like the little tweak. Of the UI homescreen, new media player a-la A2 ui, touch note, xpict and track id. That really suits me as average joe 
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Dups!
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@5nak3- good post there mate! The problem with 'newcomers' to phones like the G900 is when a friend flashes a nokia n82 and suddenly their phone feels utterly outdated. The sad fact here is that SE was in the leading position 2 or 3 years ago but became complacent and thought/hoped their name alone will carry them through. After 10 with Ericsson/Sony Ericsson I've left them but I hope to be back as soon as they get their house in order.
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Posted: 2008-04-15 07:25
So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD 
